[Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: Preferred IDE

[David M. Cooke]

"Chris Barker" <Chris.Barker at noaa.gov> writes:

> Jeffrey E. Forcier wrote:
>>> I also seem to remember BBEdit not having that  
>>>issue for some reason, but it wasn't worth the price tag for that  
>>>one tweak.
>
>>> TextWrangler/BBEdit is an *excellent* editor, so be sure to try it out yourself
>
> Yes, it is, but it really doesn't do python indenting quite right. These 
> days, all python code really should be indented with 4 spaces, and while 
> you can set BBedit to put in 4 spaces when you hit the tab key, it 
> doesn't recognize those four spaces as a single level of indentation 
> when you want to delete them, requiring four hits of the backspace key.
>
> One would think that this is a minor annoyance, and perhaps it is, but 
> being used to the excellent [X]emacs python mode, I find it very 
> frustrating.
>
> A few years ago, there was a thread in this mailing list about his, and 
> someone had even discussed the issue with BB's tech support. Their 
> response was something along the lines of "you shouldn't want to do 
> that", and they therefor will not try to support it. Granted, I'm sure 
> Python coders are a pretty small part of their market, and indentation 
> based languages are few and far between, but at the core was an attitude 
> that they know better than we do what we should want, and even more of 
> an issue, they are in total control of what will and won't be added to 
> BBedit. One reason I don't like closed source software. However, besides 
> being closed source, BBedit does not provide a powerful way for users to 
>   customize the editor's behavior themselves. If they did we'd have an 
> excellent python mode by now.

This annoyed me too, which why I'm not using TextWrangler :-)

I've submitted a patch for Smultron that does this when "indent with
spaces" is turned on:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1356887&group_id=110857&atid=657594

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