[Pythonmac-SIG] py2app standalone options

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Bob wrote:

>>>Because I don't care about your use case.  It's rare and is very 
>>>often not what people want.
>>
>>How rare?
>
>Rare enough that I can't justify writing the code and adding yet 
>another option.
>
>  If you don't need a redistributable application, then use an alias 
>bundle.  If you want a redistributable application, then include the 
>dependencies.

If you were writing py2app simply to please yourself I wouldn't 
bother raising the issue, but since you intend it to replace 
BundleBuilder in the standard distribution I can't really see "I 
don't care about your use case" being sufficient justification for 
such a design decision. You've just spent weeks, if not months, 
designing and constructing py2app - a not insignificant piece of 
software engineering. I'd be rather surprised if it'd take you more 
than a few minutes to insert an option that bypasses the modulegraph 
component at the point where it connects to the rest of py2app, 
assuming a properly-factored, maintainable design.

As to what I want: I would like a really quick, easy way to churn out 
lightweight distributable applets that don't lug around stuff they 
don't need to. BundleBuilder has no problem doing this; heck, even a 
crap language like AppleScript can do it. Is it really py2app's place 
to dictate to users how they should or shouldn't build THEIR apps? 
Personally, if I want py2app to resolve and include my applications' 
dependencies, I shall be only too happy to ask it to do so. But if I 
don't, I'd appreciate it minding its own business respecting that 
choice. (And no, forcing me to manually resolve and manually exclude 
all my applications' dependencies for it doesn't count.)

...

On a separate issue, I've noticed the semi-standalone option appears 
to be buggy in 0.1.6. When I set it to true, py2app correctly omits 
standard modules and extensions from Resources/Python, but is still 
including the core Python.framework. I'm running MacPython 2.3.3 
under OS 10.2.8. If you want the build logs and/or finished 
application bundles, let me know and I'll email them over.


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