[Pythonmac-SIG] First stab at new MacPython website

Fri Jul 25 16:17:43 EDT 2003

I personally like the snake, he's kinda cute. :) And I think having a 
standard icon for all ports would be a nice idea... Not to mention the 
cartoonish look of the snake would probably make it easy to convert 
into a pretty OS X style icon, that is if this is indeed open to 
discussion. ;-)

IMHO, the site design doesn't need to stick too much to the 
download/documentation/community framework open source projects usually 
take - most of that information simply leads people back to pages on 
Python.org.  I think the site should really just focus on the Mac 
"addons", maybe sections like the following: Mac Modules, Switching to 
Mac(Python;), Getting GUI, FAQ. If I went to the MacPython web site, 
I'd expect to find info on how to do things like control iTunes, maybe 
Quicktime, write a pyObjC or wxPython app, or maybe learn what 
PythonLauncher is all about and why I have two Python's installed on my 
computer. =)

Jack, everyone, I think I might want to play with this sometime over 
the weekend and see about doing a mockup of what I'm talking about. Is 
that OK?

Thanks,

Kevin

On Friday, July 25, 2003, at 02:45  PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:

> I don't think that strange typography ( re: http://www.python.org/ ) 
> would work, what would you suggest as an alternative?  What's wrong 
> with the snake?  Windows has the snake, pygame has a snake :)
>
> -bob
>
> On Friday, Jul 25, 2003, at 17:37 America/New_York, Bugbee, Larry 
> wrote:
>
>> If there is any chance of a nice logo that does NOT have the snake, I 
>> and a few others would appreciate it.
>>
>> Tx,
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bob Ippolito [mailto:bob at redivi.com]
>> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 2:34 PM
>> To: Jack Jansen
>> Cc: pythonmac-sig at python.org
>> Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] First stab at new MacPython website
>>
>>
>> On Friday, Jul 25, 2003, at 16:57 America/New_York, Jack Jansen wrote:
>>
>>> Folks,
>>> I've created a first stab of the new MacPython website. Please have a
>>> look at it,
>>> and send comments to the mailing list so we can discuss them. You can
>>> find it at
>>> <http://www.cwi.nl/~jack/newmacpython>.
>>>
>>> I think I have all the information from the old web page covered, and
>>> all the new stuff
>>> that is essential. But I would like comments on everything (and, 
>>> don't
>>> worry,
>>> you'll be hard-pressed to hurt my ego, so fire away:-), including:
>>>
>>> - Organisation
>>
>> Is it necessary to have a side bar and a top bar?  There doesn't seem
>> to be enough sections to justify this.  Also, the top bar is GIGANTIC
>> due to the alignment with the really big and ugly icon.  It's time to
>> get rid of the paperweight and get a sexy icon.  I'll talk to some of
>> my friends and see if I can con one of them into making a new logo.  I
>> don't think anyone understands what the 16 ton icon means (anymore?),
>> and it obviously wasn't designed to be displayed at that size.
>>
>>> - graphic design, fonts, colors, etc
>>
>> The "Special topics" section should behave like the top navigation..
>> meaning, if you're at a particular section, it should remain in the
>> navigation but no longer as an anchor tag.
>> In Safari 1.0, there does not appear to be a right margin on the page.
>> "MacPython is the port "... should probably be stated as "MacPython is
>> the official port..."
>> Exits doesn't seem terribly useful, especially cause it's not
>> consistently there and generally just points to python.org.. Also
>> Community is terse enough to be part of Home, especially since the
>> c.l.py newsgroup and mailing list is mentioned there where the
>> Pythonmac-SIG is more likely to be relevant to a MacPython user.
>>
>>> - errors, dead links, links going to the wrong place
>>
>> http://python.sourceforge.net/ (Developers section)  is deprecated, 
>> and
>> should be http://www.python.org/dev/
>>
>> MacPython Documentation should point to http://www.python.org/doc/
>> (Documentation) .. perhaps even more specific sections such as
>> http://www.python.org/doc/current/mac/mac.html
>>
>>
>>> - missing information
>>
>> Package Manager!
>>
>>>
>>> The latter is especially open for discussion. I was thinking of 
>>> adding
>>> at least a section
>>> on GUI programming, but I'm open to sugestions on other things. Also,
>>> should I add the MacPython Help files here too, so people can get a
>>> quick idea?
>>
>> -bob
>>
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