From ahmad at newhive.com  Thu Jun  1 19:59:19 2006
From: ahmad at newhive.com (ahmad adel rldardiry)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 20:59:19 +0300
Subject: [PythonCE] py2exe
Message-ID: <000b01c685a5$1c2877b0$1b01a8c0@ahmad>


May peace and Allah Mercy and Blessings be upon you,


Could this be done? A py2exe version for pocketpc, that generates an executable that can run on Pocket PC?

Thanks



There is no god but Allah


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From bkc at murkworks.com  Fri Jun  2 01:58:58 2006
From: bkc at murkworks.com (Brad Clements)
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 19:58:58 -0400
Subject: [PythonCE] py2exe
In-Reply-To: <000b01c685a5$1c2877b0$1b01a8c0@ahmad>
Message-ID: <447F4702.12882.BEE85552@bkc.murkworks.com>

On 1 Jun 2006 at 20:59, ahmad adel rldardiry wrote:

> Could this be done? A py2exe version for pocketpc, that generates an
> executable that can run on Pocket PC?

py2exe requires ctypes. I think there was some progress getting ctypes to work 
on Windows CE.

However you'd still need a linker for ARM and pre-made DLLs, plus figure out if 
the .zip'd python scripts can be appended to a Windows CE executable (that's the 
trick py2exe uses to bundle everything up on X86 platforms)

So .. ctypes for windows ce needed first, then figure out how to append arbitrary 
data to an ARM executable on CE.





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From coder_infidel at hotmail.com  Fri Jun  2 08:28:01 2006
From: coder_infidel at hotmail.com ( Luke Dunstan)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 14:28:01 +0800
Subject: [PythonCE] py2exe
References: <447F4702.12882.BEE85552@bkc.murkworks.com>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV119E6598BF8C3C9BDD63C38A910@phx.gbl>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brad Clements" <bkc at murkworks.com>
To: <pythonce at python.org>
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: [PythonCE] py2exe


> On 1 Jun 2006 at 20:59, ahmad adel rldardiry wrote:
>
>> Could this be done? A py2exe version for pocketpc, that generates an
>> executable that can run on Pocket PC?
>
> py2exe requires ctypes. I think there was some progress getting ctypes to 
> work
> on Windows CE.

Actually I ported ctypes months ago, and since then both Thomas Heller and I 
have released ctypes binaries for versions of PythonCE.

>
> However you'd still need a linker for ARM and pre-made DLLs, plus figure 
> out if
> the .zip'd python scripts can be appended to a Windows CE executable 
> (that's the
> trick py2exe uses to bundle everything up on X86 platforms)

Yes, that may be the tricky part I think, but I have not looked into it.

Luke

From theller at python.net  Fri Jun  2 08:41:42 2006
From: theller at python.net (Thomas Heller)
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 08:41:42 +0200
Subject: [PythonCE] py2exe
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-DAV119E6598BF8C3C9BDD63C38A910@phx.gbl>
References: <447F4702.12882.BEE85552@bkc.murkworks.com>
	<BAY109-DAV119E6598BF8C3C9BDD63C38A910@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <447FDDA6.4050803@python.net>

 Luke Dunstan wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brad Clements" <bkc at murkworks.com>
> To: <pythonce at python.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 7:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [PythonCE] py2exe
> 
> 
>> On 1 Jun 2006 at 20:59, ahmad adel rldardiry wrote:
>>
>>> Could this be done? A py2exe version for pocketpc, that generates an
>>> executable that can run on Pocket PC?
>>
>> py2exe requires ctypes. I think there was some progress getting ctypes to 
>> work
>> on Windows CE.

No, py2exe does not require ctypes (AFAIK ;-).

> Actually I ported ctypes months ago, and since then both Thomas Heller and I 
> have released ctypes binaries for versions of PythonCE.
> 
>>
>> However you'd still need a linker for ARM and pre-made DLLs, plus figure 
>> out if
>> the .zip'd python scripts can be appended to a Windows CE executable 
>> (that's the
>> trick py2exe uses to bundle everything up on X86 platforms)
> 
> Yes, that may be the tricky part I think, but I have not looked into it.

If that does not work or is not possible, one should still be able to
build with a separate library.zip.

Thomas


From jeff_barish at earthlink.net  Fri Jun  2 16:53:57 2006
From: jeff_barish at earthlink.net (jeffbarish)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 07:53:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PythonCE] Port wxPython to Windows Mobile 5
Message-ID: <4681124.post@talk.nabble.com>


I posted this plea on comp.python.wxpython yesterday, but I want to be sure
that everyone who might be able to help sees it.

I am desperately interested in having a current port of wxPython to Windows
Mobile -- to the point that I am willing to pay someone out of my own pocket
to do it.  I'm sure that there are people on this list capable of doing it. 
Is someone willing?
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From bandung at skyesystems.com  Thu Jun  8 08:42:15 2006
From: bandung at skyesystems.com (Bandung)
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 23:42:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PythonCE] pyeditce is online!
In-Reply-To: <8f654c1e0605180722o5e92a40ep203ef4bb1d0ace2a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8f654c1e0605180722o5e92a40ep203ef4bb1d0ace2a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4766979.post@talk.nabble.com>


You may want to take a look at the SpecTix project for some layout ideas. 
The ide was written in tcl/tk.  I like the way that it adds geometry widgets
at the start of a new project.

If you can port this to wm5, that would be the bomb.  (it may even run as
it).  When I get my new mini SD card, I will take a wack at installing it
myself.

SpecTix 
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From bandung at skyesystems.com  Thu Jun  8 08:43:20 2006
From: bandung at skyesystems.com (Bandung)
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 23:43:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PythonCE] Tk/Tcl Widgets
In-Reply-To: <446CF4D8.8040505@voidspace.org.uk>
References: <446CF4D8.8040505@voidspace.org.uk>
Message-ID: <4766993.post@talk.nabble.com>


This project also has some promise and is based upon tcl as well.

SpecTix 
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From svax at free.fr  Mon Jun 12 05:55:16 2006
From: svax at free.fr (Stephane Vaxelaire)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:55:16 +0400
Subject: [PythonCE] PythonCE + wxPyCE + pySqlite + sqlite3
Message-ID: <1150084516.448ce5a4de4f6@imp3-g19.free.fr>

Hello,

I read a lot of posts about those python software but found no link to
precompiled versions anywhere except on a website with wxpyce_v2.zip.

Has anyone compiled wxPython and pysqlite for a PPC with WM 2003 ?
Any binary package would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

From coder_infidel at hotmail.com  Sat Jun 17 13:14:01 2006
From: coder_infidel at hotmail.com (Luke Dunstan)
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 19:14:01 +0800
Subject: [PythonCE] PythonCE wiki
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV733864C473333FC217AED8A800@phx.gbl>

Hi all,

I have started a new wiki for PythonCE, because existing ones are too old 
and I don't have control over them as they are not hosted on SourceForge.

http://pythonce.sourceforge.net/Wikka/HomePage

Please note that I have written this front page initially as merely a list 
of *ideas* for what pages I think need to be written, but most of them are 
not even started yet. Feel free to write these suggested pages if you think 
you can, and I will try to write some too as time permits. I would like to 
keep the front page fairly short, so it should be refactored if it becomes 
too large, e.g. by moving the "getting started" links to a separate 
GettingStarted page.

Luke Dunstan

From gmc at serveisw3.net  Sat Jun 17 13:48:18 2006
From: gmc at serveisw3.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gonzalo_Monz=F3n?=)
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 13:48:18 +0200
Subject: [PythonCE] PythonCE wiki
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-DAV733864C473333FC217AED8A800@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY109-DAV733864C473333FC217AED8A800@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4493EC02.5010108@serveisw3.net>

Good idea Luke!!

Cheers,
Gonzalo

Luke Dunstan escribi?:

>Hi all,
>
>I have started a new wiki for PythonCE, because existing ones are too old 
>and I don't have control over them as they are not hosted on SourceForge.
>
>http://pythonce.sourceforge.net/Wikka/HomePage
>
>Please note that I have written this front page initially as merely a list 
>of *ideas* for what pages I think need to be written, but most of them are 
>not even started yet. Feel free to write these suggested pages if you think 
>you can, and I will try to write some too as time permits. I would like to 
>keep the front page fairly short, so it should be refactored if it becomes 
>too large, e.g. by moving the "getting started" links to a separate 
>GettingStarted page.
>
>Luke Dunstan
>_______________________________________________
>PythonCE mailing list
>PythonCE at python.org
>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
>
>  
>


From andy at andybak.net  Mon Jun 19 11:41:08 2006
From: andy at andybak.net (Andy Baker)
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 10:41:08 +0100
Subject: [PythonCE] PythonCE wiki
In-Reply-To: <4493EC02.5010108@serveisw3.net>
References: <BAY109-DAV733864C473333FC217AED8A800@phx.gbl>
	<4493EC02.5010108@serveisw3.net>
Message-ID: <85d9ccbb0606190241t4e3388d9q7ebc4efeb12f1afd@mail.gmail.com>

I feel it would improve things if someone could start contacting the
authors/maintainers of some of the out of date PythonCE stuff floating
around and ask them if they could update/remove/point to current
stuff.

The first impressions you get when you google for PythonCE is that it
is a project that isn't particularly current. It would be nice to try
and get the main google hits looking a bit more loved.

On 6/17/06, Gonzalo Monz?n <gmc at serveisw3.net> wrote:
> Good idea Luke!!
>
> Cheers,
> Gonzalo
>
> Luke Dunstan escribi?:
>
> >Hi all,
> >
> >I have started a new wiki for PythonCE, because existing ones are too old
> >and I don't have control over them as they are not hosted on SourceForge.
> >
> >http://pythonce.sourceforge.net/Wikka/HomePage
> >
> >Please note that I have written this front page initially as merely a list
> >of *ideas* for what pages I think need to be written, but most of them are
> >not even started yet. Feel free to write these suggested pages if you think
> >you can, and I will try to write some too as time permits. I would like to
> >keep the front page fairly short, so it should be refactored if it becomes
> >too large, e.g. by moving the "getting started" links to a separate
> >GettingStarted page.
> >
> >Luke Dunstan
> >_______________________________________________
> >PythonCE mailing list
> >PythonCE at python.org
> >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
> >
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> PythonCE mailing list
> PythonCE at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
>


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From bkc at murkworks.com  Mon Jun 19 16:51:40 2006
From: bkc at murkworks.com (Brad Clements)
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 10:51:40 -0400
Subject: [PythonCE] PythonCE wiki
In-Reply-To: <85d9ccbb0606190241t4e3388d9q7ebc4efeb12f1afd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4493EC02.5010108@serveisw3.net>
Message-ID: <449681BC.17148.45D1E99E@bkc.murkworks.com>

On 19 Jun 2006 at 10:41, Andy Baker wrote:

> I feel it would improve things if someone could start contacting the
> authors/maintainers of some of the out of date PythonCE stuff floating
> around and ask them if they could update/remove/point to current
> stuff.

google for "python ce" puts the oold murkworks-hosted wiki 2nd in the results.

How can I "share the google love" to capitalize on the old wiki moving the new-
one up higher in the results?

Do I just put in a link to the new site and say "go here"? 


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From andy at andybak.net  Mon Jun 19 16:59:33 2006
From: andy at andybak.net (Andy Baker)
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:59:33 +0100
Subject: [PythonCE] PythonCE wiki
In-Reply-To: <449681BC.17148.45D1E99E@bkc.murkworks.com>
References: <4493EC02.5010108@serveisw3.net>
	<85d9ccbb0606190241t4e3388d9q7ebc4efeb12f1afd@mail.gmail.com>
	<449681BC.17148.45D1E99E@bkc.murkworks.com>
Message-ID: <85d9ccbb0606190759n7fbadb31qc382e47e051dfe3b@mail.gmail.com>

I'd would say having a prominant link on your most highly ranked page
wrapped in a H1 and mentioning Python CE in the actual link text would be a
good move.

On 6/19/06, Brad Clements <bkc at murkworks.com> wrote:
>
> On 19 Jun 2006 at 10:41, Andy Baker wrote:
>
> > I feel it would improve things if someone could start contacting the
> > authors/maintainers of some of the out of date PythonCE stuff floating
> > around and ask them if they could update/remove/point to current
> > stuff.
>
> google for "python ce" puts the oold murkworks-hosted wiki 2nd in the
> results.
>
> How can I "share the google love" to capitalize on the old wiki moving the
> new-
> one up higher in the results?
>
> Do I just put in a link to the new site and say "go here"?
>
>
> --
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From coder_infidel at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 19 17:43:43 2006
From: coder_infidel at hotmail.com (Luke Dunstan)
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 23:43:43 +0800
Subject: [PythonCE] PythonCE wiki
References: <4493EC02.5010108@serveisw3.net>
	<449681BC.17148.45D1E99E@bkc.murkworks.com>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV10485E021C308887D9364D8A860@phx.gbl>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brad Clements" <bkc at murkworks.com>
To: <pythonce at python.org>
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: [PythonCE] PythonCE wiki


> On 19 Jun 2006 at 10:41, Andy Baker wrote:
>
>> I feel it would improve things if someone could start contacting the
>> authors/maintainers of some of the out of date PythonCE stuff floating
>> around and ask them if they could update/remove/point to current
>> stuff.
>
> google for "python ce" puts the oold murkworks-hosted wiki 2nd in the 
> results.
>
> How can I "share the google love" to capitalize on the old wiki moving the 
> new-
> one up higher in the results?
>
> Do I just put in a link to the new site and say "go here"?

I think that would help, but anyway if I was looking for Python for Windows 
CE I would search for 'python "windows ce"', not pythonce or "python ce", 
unless I already knew of the project.

Luke

From coder_infidel at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 19 17:49:53 2006
From: coder_infidel at hotmail.com (Luke Dunstan)
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 23:49:53 +0800
Subject: [PythonCE] PythonCE wiki
References: <BAY109-DAV733864C473333FC217AED8A800@phx.gbl><4493EC02.5010108@serveisw3.net>
	<85d9ccbb0606190241t4e3388d9q7ebc4efeb12f1afd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV77FFF46D99313CB7AA2458A860@phx.gbl>


Good idea. So far I've contacted David Kashtan and Mark Hammond to ask for 
links to the PythonCE project.

Luke

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy Baker" <andy at andybak.net>
To: <pythonce at python.org>
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [PythonCE] PythonCE wiki


I feel it would improve things if someone could start contacting the
authors/maintainers of some of the out of date PythonCE stuff floating
around and ask them if they could update/remove/point to current
stuff.

The first impressions you get when you google for PythonCE is that it
is a project that isn't particularly current. It would be nice to try
and get the main google hits looking a bit more loved.

On 6/17/06, Gonzalo Monz?n <gmc at serveisw3.net> wrote:
> Good idea Luke!!
>
> Cheers,
> Gonzalo
>
> Luke Dunstan escribi?:
>
> >Hi all,
> >
> >I have started a new wiki for PythonCE, because existing ones are too old
> >and I don't have control over them as they are not hosted on SourceForge.
> >
> >http://pythonce.sourceforge.net/Wikka/HomePage
> >
> >Please note that I have written this front page initially as merely a 
> >list
> >of *ideas* for what pages I think need to be written, but most of them 
> >are
> >not even started yet. Feel free to write these suggested pages if you 
> >think
> >you can, and I will try to write some too as time permits. I would like 
> >to
> >keep the front page fairly short, so it should be refactored if it 
> >becomes
> >too large, e.g. by moving the "getting started" links to a separate
> >GettingStarted page.
> >
> >Luke Dunstan
> >_______________________________________________
> >PythonCE mailing list
> >PythonCE at python.org
> >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
> >
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> PythonCE mailing list
> PythonCE at python.org
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>


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From benjamin.mcbride at gmail.com  Tue Jun 20 17:20:05 2006
From: benjamin.mcbride at gmail.com (Benjamin McBride)
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 10:20:05 -0500
Subject: [PythonCE] serial port access
Message-ID: <c1211b170606200820w22f7d7bat408897dbab5d4e2@mail.gmail.com>

     Hi All,

     I need to access the serial port for my PPC application.  I have been
     unable to locate information on this.  I'm using Python 2.4.3 and PPC
     2003.  Previously I've used pyserial, but it appears that pyserial does
     not work on Windows CE.

     Thanks for any suggestions,

     Ben McBride
     bdm7935 at ksu.edu

From gmc at serveisw3.net  Tue Jun 20 18:09:28 2006
From: gmc at serveisw3.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gonzalo_Monz=F3n?=)
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:09:28 +0200
Subject: [PythonCE] serial port access
In-Reply-To: <c1211b170606200820w22f7d7bat408897dbab5d4e2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c1211b170606200820w22f7d7bat408897dbab5d4e2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44981DB8.4050502@serveisw3.net>

Hi Benjamin,

You can use ctypes for direct access to serial ports via windows apis 
(openfile, readfile, writefile...)

Note that manufacturers can have specific implementations, even they 
must agree to PPC implementation, but you can found small differences.

http://www.codeproject.com/system/simpleserialcomm.asp

Regards,
Gonzalo


Benjamin McBride escribi?:

>     Hi All,
>
>     I need to access the serial port for my PPC application.  I have been
>     unable to locate information on this.  I'm using Python 2.4.3 and PPC
>     2003.  Previously I've used pyserial, but it appears that pyserial does
>     not work on Windows CE.
>
>     Thanks for any suggestions,
>
>     Ben McBride
>     bdm7935 at ksu.edu
>_______________________________________________
>PythonCE mailing list
>PythonCE at python.org
>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
>
>  
>


From benjamin.mcbride at gmail.com  Tue Jun 20 22:11:34 2006
From: benjamin.mcbride at gmail.com (Benjamin McBride)
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:11:34 -0500
Subject: [PythonCE] serial port access
In-Reply-To: <44981DB8.4050502@serveisw3.net>
References: <c1211b170606200820w22f7d7bat408897dbab5d4e2@mail.gmail.com>
	<44981DB8.4050502@serveisw3.net>
Message-ID: <c1211b170606201311r26990525n3d6b1236abd87db9@mail.gmail.com>

I've got ctypes installed.  However, I have not been able to find any
examples of how I might use ctypes for serial port access.  Any
suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Ben

On 6/20/06, Gonzalo Monz?n <gmc at serveisw3.net> wrote:
> Hi Benjamin,
>
> You can use ctypes for direct access to serial ports via windows apis
> (openfile, readfile, writefile...)
>
> Note that manufacturers can have specific implementations, even they
> must agree to PPC implementation, but you can found small differences.
>
> http://www.codeproject.com/system/simpleserialcomm.asp
>
> Regards,
> Gonzalo
>
>
> Benjamin McBride escribi?:
>
> >     Hi All,
> >
> >     I need to access the serial port for my PPC application.  I have been
> >     unable to locate information on this.  I'm using Python 2.4.3 and PPC
> >     2003.  Previously I've used pyserial, but it appears that pyserial does
> >     not work on Windows CE.
> >
> >     Thanks for any suggestions,
> >
> >     Ben McBride
> >     bdm7935 at ksu.edu
> >_______________________________________________
> >PythonCE mailing list
> >PythonCE at python.org
> >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
> >
> >
> >
>
>

From gmc at serveisw3.net  Tue Jun 20 22:42:02 2006
From: gmc at serveisw3.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gonzalo_Monz=F3n?=)
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:42:02 +0200
Subject: [PythonCE] serial port access
In-Reply-To: <c1211b170606201311r26990525n3d6b1236abd87db9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c1211b170606200820w22f7d7bat408897dbab5d4e2@mail.gmail.com>	<44981DB8.4050502@serveisw3.net>
	<c1211b170606201311r26990525n3d6b1236abd87db9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44985D9A.5030305@serveisw3.net>

Have you read the ctypes docs? 

http://starship.python.net/crew/theller/ctypes/tutorial.html

You have to read the Microsoft docs too, search what dynamic libraries 
to use and what functions to call. Study the example I posted, you have 
to call these functions using ctypes:

(openfile, readfile, writefile...)

Don't know if somebody has implemented serial access using ctypes as to 
post an example, read the docs, first you need to understand how ctypes 
work -for that you should know or learn what C variable types are and 
understand it almost a little bit, then the codeproject example will 
come in handy- otherwise could be hard to code... Though any ctypes 
example handling file or stream data may help you. Though pyserial uses 
ctypes too, so you could have a look to the sources. The differences are 
you have to use straight windows api calls, and pyserial calls a helper 
library wich should use windows api's for windows platform.

I have to code serial access too in the next weeks, but don't have the 
time now to get my hands in it. If you are not in hurry I could post an 
example when done.

Gonzalo.


Benjamin McBride escribi?:

>I've got ctypes installed.  However, I have not been able to find any
>examples of how I might use ctypes for serial port access.  Any
>suggestions would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ben
>
>On 6/20/06, Gonzalo Monz?n <gmc at serveisw3.net> wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi Benjamin,
>>
>>You can use ctypes for direct access to serial ports via windows apis
>>(openfile, readfile, writefile...)
>>
>>Note that manufacturers can have specific implementations, even they
>>must agree to PPC implementation, but you can found small differences.
>>
>>http://www.codeproject.com/system/simpleserialcomm.asp
>>
>>Regards,
>>Gonzalo
>>
>>
>>Benjamin McBride escribi?:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>    Hi All,
>>>
>>>    I need to access the serial port for my PPC application.  I have been
>>>    unable to locate information on this.  I'm using Python 2.4.3 and PPC
>>>    2003.  Previously I've used pyserial, but it appears that pyserial does
>>>    not work on Windows CE.
>>>
>>>    Thanks for any suggestions,
>>>
>>>    Ben McBride
>>>    bdm7935 at ksu.edu
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>PythonCE mailing list
>>>PythonCE at python.org
>>>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>    
>>
>_______________________________________________
>PythonCE mailing list
>PythonCE at python.org
>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
>
>  
>


From benjamin.mcbride at gmail.com  Tue Jun 20 22:54:18 2006
From: benjamin.mcbride at gmail.com (Benjamin McBride)
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:54:18 -0500
Subject: [PythonCE] serial port access
In-Reply-To: <44985D9A.5030305@serveisw3.net>
References: <c1211b170606200820w22f7d7bat408897dbab5d4e2@mail.gmail.com>
	<44981DB8.4050502@serveisw3.net>
	<c1211b170606201311r26990525n3d6b1236abd87db9@mail.gmail.com>
	<44985D9A.5030305@serveisw3.net>
Message-ID: <c1211b170606201354r24ccbc1by38cd3ac3da6a5ad1@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Gonzalo for your help.  I have read both the ctypes and
microsoft documentation.  My understanding is that I need to use the
CreateFile API function from the coredll to get a handle to the comm
port.  When I use ctypes:

>>> windll.coredll.CreateFile

I get an AttributeError saying the CreateFile function is not found.
Ironically, the ReadFile, WriteFile, and CloseHandle functions are all
found.

Am I just missing something simple here?

Ben

On 6/20/06, Gonzalo Monz?n <gmc at serveisw3.net> wrote:
> Have you read the ctypes docs?
>
> http://starship.python.net/crew/theller/ctypes/tutorial.html
>
> You have to read the Microsoft docs too, search what dynamic libraries
> to use and what functions to call. Study the example I posted, you have
> to call these functions using ctypes:
>
> (openfile, readfile, writefile...)
>
> Don't know if somebody has implemented serial access using ctypes as to
> post an example, read the docs, first you need to understand how ctypes
> work -for that you should know or learn what C variable types are and
> understand it almost a little bit, then the codeproject example will
> come in handy- otherwise could be hard to code... Though any ctypes
> example handling file or stream data may help you. Though pyserial uses
> ctypes too, so you could have a look to the sources. The differences are
> you have to use straight windows api calls, and pyserial calls a helper
> library wich should use windows api's for windows platform.
>
> I have to code serial access too in the next weeks, but don't have the
> time now to get my hands in it. If you are not in hurry I could post an
> example when done.
>
> Gonzalo.
>
>
> Benjamin McBride escribi?:
>
> >I've got ctypes installed.  However, I have not been able to find any
> >examples of how I might use ctypes for serial port access.  Any
> >suggestions would be appreciated.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Ben
> >
> >On 6/20/06, Gonzalo Monz?n <gmc at serveisw3.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hi Benjamin,
> >>
> >>You can use ctypes for direct access to serial ports via windows apis
> >>(openfile, readfile, writefile...)
> >>
> >>Note that manufacturers can have specific implementations, even they
> >>must agree to PPC implementation, but you can found small differences.
> >>
> >>http://www.codeproject.com/system/simpleserialcomm.asp
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>Gonzalo
> >>
> >>
> >>Benjamin McBride escribi?:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>    Hi All,
> >>>
> >>>    I need to access the serial port for my PPC application.  I have been
> >>>    unable to locate information on this.  I'm using Python 2.4.3 and PPC
> >>>    2003.  Previously I've used pyserial, but it appears that pyserial does
> >>>    not work on Windows CE.
> >>>
> >>>    Thanks for any suggestions,
> >>>
> >>>    Ben McBride
> >>>    bdm7935 at ksu.edu
> >>>_______________________________________________
> >>>PythonCE mailing list
> >>>PythonCE at python.org
> >>>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >_______________________________________________
> >PythonCE mailing list
> >PythonCE at python.org
> >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
> >
> >
> >
>
>

From TGalvin at geminidataloggers.com  Wed Jun 21 12:28:57 2006
From: TGalvin at geminidataloggers.com (Tom Galvin)
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:28:57 +0100
Subject: [PythonCE] serial port access
In-Reply-To: <mailman.29.1150884006.23360.pythonce@python.org>
Message-ID: <C9D19A363862284F9FA316375A3638CB572972@mercury.internal.geminidataloggers.com>

Hi Benjamin 

We have achieved serial port access by applying the following patches to
the build. I would be interested in any success you have using other
methods. 

   - Apply the following patch to
 
PYTHONCEROOT\\PCbuild\\WinCE\\External-Components\\PyWin32\makefile
      
19c19,20
 	wince
---
 	wince \
       win32file

76a77,84
 #   win32file:
 #
 win32file:
 	@cd ..\..
 	@$(NMAKE) -f External-Components\PyWin32\makefile.win32file
SWIGROOT=$(SWIGROOT)
 	@cd External-Components\PyWin32
 
 #
84a93
 	@$(NMAKE) -f External-Components\PyWin32\makefile.win32file
clean


    - Add the attached makefile.win32file to 
      PYTHONCEROOT\\PCbuild\\WinCE\\External-Components\\PyWin32
      

    - Add the attached win32file_comm_wince.cpp and
win32filemodule_wince.cpp source files to PYWIN32ROOT\\win32\\src

    - Add an empty file `io.h` to 
      PYTHONCEROOT\\PC\\WinCE 

Regards

Tom
      



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>>   2. Re: serial port access (Gonzalo Monz?n)
>>   3. Re: serial port access (Benjamin McBride)
>>   4. Re: serial port access (Gonzalo Monz?n)
>>   5. Re: serial port access (Benjamin McBride)
>>
>>
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>Message: 1
>>Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 10:20:05 -0500
>>From: "Benjamin McBride" <benjamin.mcbride at gmail.com>
>>Subject: [PythonCE] serial port access
>>To: pythonce at python.org
>>Message-ID:
>>	<c1211b170606200820w22f7d7bat408897dbab5d4e2 at mail.gmail.com>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>>     Hi All,
>>
>>     I need to access the serial port for my PPC application.  I have
been
>>     unable to locate information on this.  I'm using Python 2.4.3 and
PPC
>>     2003.  Previously I've used pyserial, but it appears that
pyserial
>>does
>>     not work on Windows CE.
>>
>>     Thanks for any suggestions,
>>
>>     Ben McBride
>>     bdm7935 at ksu.edu
>>
>>
>>------------------------------
>>
>>Message: 2
>>Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:09:28 +0200
>>From: Gonzalo Monz?n <gmc at serveisw3.net>
>>Subject: Re: [PythonCE] serial port access
>>To: Benjamin McBride <benjamin.mcbride at gmail.com>
>>Cc: pythonce at python.org
>>Message-ID: <44981DB8.4050502 at serveisw3.net>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>>Hi Benjamin,
>>
>>You can use ctypes for direct access to serial ports via windows apis
>>(openfile, readfile, writefile...)
>>
>>Note that manufacturers can have specific implementations, even they
>>must agree to PPC implementation, but you can found small differences.
>>
>>http://www.codeproject.com/system/simpleserialcomm.asp
>>
>>Regards,
>>Gonzalo
>>
>>
>>Benjamin McBride escribi?:
>>
>>>     Hi All,
>>>
>>>     I need to access the serial port for my PPC application.  I have
>>been
>>>     unable to locate information on this.  I'm using Python 2.4.3
and
>>PPC
>>>     2003.  Previously I've used pyserial, but it appears that
pyserial
>>does
>>>     not work on Windows CE.
>>>
>>>     Thanks for any suggestions,
>>>
>>>     Ben McBride
>>>     bdm7935 at ksu.edu
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>PythonCE mailing list
>>>PythonCE at python.org
>>>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>------------------------------
>>
>>Message: 3
>>Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:11:34 -0500
>>From: "Benjamin McBride" <benjamin.mcbride at gmail.com>
>>Subject: Re: [PythonCE] serial port access
>>To: pythonce at python.org
>>Message-ID:
>>	<c1211b170606201311r26990525n3d6b1236abd87db9 at mail.gmail.com>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>>I've got ctypes installed.  However, I have not been able to find any
>>examples of how I might use ctypes for serial port access.  Any
>>suggestions would be appreciated.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Ben
>>
>>On 6/20/06, Gonzalo Monz?n <gmc at serveisw3.net> wrote:
>>> Hi Benjamin,
>>>
>>> You can use ctypes for direct access to serial ports via windows
apis
>>> (openfile, readfile, writefile...)
>>>
>>> Note that manufacturers can have specific implementations, even they
>>> must agree to PPC implementation, but you can found small
differences.
>>>
>>> http://www.codeproject.com/system/simpleserialcomm.asp
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Gonzalo
>>>
>>>
>>> Benjamin McBride escribi?:
>>>
>>> >     Hi All,
>>> >
>>> >     I need to access the serial port for my PPC application.  I
have
>>been
>>> >     unable to locate information on this.  I'm using Python 2.4.3
and
>>PPC
>>> >     2003.  Previously I've used pyserial, but it appears that
pyserial
>>does
>>> >     not work on Windows CE.
>>> >
>>> >     Thanks for any suggestions,
>>> >
>>> >     Ben McBride
>>> >     bdm7935 at ksu.edu
>>> >_______________________________________________
>>> >PythonCE mailing list
>>> >PythonCE at python.org
>>> >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>------------------------------
>>
>>Message: 4
>>Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:42:02 +0200
>>From: Gonzalo Monz?n <gmc at serveisw3.net>
>>Subject: Re: [PythonCE] serial port access
>>To: Benjamin McBride <benjamin.mcbride at gmail.com>
>>Cc: pythonce at python.org
>>Message-ID: <44985D9A.5030305 at serveisw3.net>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>>Have you read the ctypes docs?
>>
>>http://starship.python.net/crew/theller/ctypes/tutorial.html
>>
>>You have to read the Microsoft docs too, search what dynamic libraries
>>to use and what functions to call. Study the example I posted, you
have
>>to call these functions using ctypes:
>>
>>(openfile, readfile, writefile...)
>>
>>Don't know if somebody has implemented serial access using ctypes as
to
>>post an example, read the docs, first you need to understand how
ctypes
>>work -for that you should know or learn what C variable types are and
>>understand it almost a little bit, then the codeproject example will
>>come in handy- otherwise could be hard to code... Though any ctypes
>>example handling file or stream data may help you. Though pyserial
uses
>>ctypes too, so you could have a look to the sources. The differences
are
>>you have to use straight windows api calls, and pyserial calls a
helper
>>library wich should use windows api's for windows platform.
>>
>>I have to code serial access too in the next weeks, but don't have the
>>time now to get my hands in it. If you are not in hurry I could post
an
>>example when done.
>>
>>Gonzalo.
>>
>>
>>Benjamin McBride escribi?:
>>
>>>I've got ctypes installed.  However, I have not been able to find any
>>>examples of how I might use ctypes for serial port access.  Any
>>>suggestions would be appreciated.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Ben
>>>
>>>On 6/20/06, Gonzalo Monz?n <gmc at serveisw3.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi Benjamin,
>>>>
>>>>You can use ctypes for direct access to serial ports via windows
apis
>>>>(openfile, readfile, writefile...)
>>>>
>>>>Note that manufacturers can have specific implementations, even they
>>>>must agree to PPC implementation, but you can found small
differences.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.codeproject.com/system/simpleserialcomm.asp
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Gonzalo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Benjamin McBride escribi?:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>    Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>>    I need to access the serial port for my PPC application.  I
have
>>been
>>>>>    unable to locate information on this.  I'm using Python 2.4.3
and
>>PPC
>>>>>    2003.  Previously I've used pyserial, but it appears that
pyserial
>>does
>>>>>    not work on Windows CE.
>>>>>
>>>>>    Thanks for any suggestions,
>>>>>
>>>>>    Ben McBride
>>>>>    bdm7935 at ksu.edu
>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>PythonCE mailing list
>>>>>PythonCE at python.org
>>>>>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>PythonCE mailing list
>>>PythonCE at python.org
>>>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>------------------------------
>>
>>Message: 5
>>Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:54:18 -0500
>>From: "Benjamin McBride" <benjamin.mcbride at gmail.com>
>>Subject: Re: [PythonCE] serial port access
>>To: pythonce at python.org
>>Message-ID:
>>	<c1211b170606201354r24ccbc1by38cd3ac3da6a5ad1 at mail.gmail.com>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>>Thanks Gonzalo for your help.  I have read both the ctypes and
>>microsoft documentation.  My understanding is that I need to use the
>>CreateFile API function from the coredll to get a handle to the comm
>>port.  When I use ctypes:
>>
>>>>> windll.coredll.CreateFile
>>
>>I get an AttributeError saying the CreateFile function is not found.
>>Ironically, the ReadFile, WriteFile, and CloseHandle functions are all
>>found.
>>
>>Am I just missing something simple here?
>>
>>Ben
>>
>>On 6/20/06, Gonzalo Monz?n <gmc at serveisw3.net> wrote:
>>> Have you read the ctypes docs?
>>>
>>> http://starship.python.net/crew/theller/ctypes/tutorial.html
>>>
>>> You have to read the Microsoft docs too, search what dynamic
libraries
>>> to use and what functions to call. Study the example I posted, you
have
>>> to call these functions using ctypes:
>>>
>>> (openfile, readfile, writefile...)
>>>
>>> Don't know if somebody has implemented serial access using ctypes as
to
>>> post an example, read the docs, first you need to understand how
ctypes
>>> work -for that you should know or learn what C variable types are
and
>>> understand it almost a little bit, then the codeproject example will
>>> come in handy- otherwise could be hard to code... Though any ctypes
>>> example handling file or stream data may help you. Though pyserial
uses
>>> ctypes too, so you could have a look to the sources. The differences
are
>>> you have to use straight windows api calls, and pyserial calls a
helper
>>> library wich should use windows api's for windows platform.
>>>
>>> I have to code serial access too in the next weeks, but don't have
the
>>> time now to get my hands in it. If you are not in hurry I could post
an
>>> example when done.
>>>
>>> Gonzalo.
>>>
>>>
>>> Benjamin McBride escribi?:
>>>
>>> >I've got ctypes installed.  However, I have not been able to find
any
>>> >examples of how I might use ctypes for serial port access.  Any
>>> >suggestions would be appreciated.
>>> >
>>> >Thanks,
>>> >
>>> >Ben
>>> >
>>> >On 6/20/06, Gonzalo Monz?n <gmc at serveisw3.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>Hi Benjamin,
>>> >>
>>> >>You can use ctypes for direct access to serial ports via windows
apis
>>> >>(openfile, readfile, writefile...)
>>> >>
>>> >>Note that manufacturers can have specific implementations, even
they
>>> >>must agree to PPC implementation, but you can found small
differences.
>>> >>
>>> >>http://www.codeproject.com/system/simpleserialcomm.asp
>>> >>
>>> >>Regards,
>>> >>Gonzalo
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>Benjamin McBride escribi?:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>    Hi All,
>>> >>>
>>> >>>    I need to access the serial port for my PPC application.  I
have
>>been
>>> >>>    unable to locate information on this.  I'm using Python 2.4.3
and
>>PPC
>>> >>>    2003.  Previously I've used pyserial, but it appears that
>>pyserial does
>>> >>>    not work on Windows CE.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>    Thanks for any suggestions,
>>> >>>
>>> >>>    Ben McBride
>>> >>>    bdm7935 at ksu.edu
>>> >>>_______________________________________________
>>> >>>PythonCE mailing list
>>> >>>PythonCE at python.org
>>> >>>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >_______________________________________________
>>> >PythonCE mailing list
>>> >PythonCE at python.org
>>> >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>>
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From coder_infidel at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 21 15:05:50 2006
From: coder_infidel at hotmail.com (Luke Dunstan)
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 21:05:50 +0800
Subject: [PythonCE] serial port access
References: <c1211b170606200820w22f7d7bat408897dbab5d4e2@mail.gmail.com><44981DB8.4050502@serveisw3.net><c1211b170606201311r26990525n3d6b1236abd87db9@mail.gmail.com><44985D9A.5030305@serveisw3.net>
	<c1211b170606201354r24ccbc1by38cd3ac3da6a5ad1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV108D678BA6D1F265EA831B8A840@phx.gbl>


You need to use the wide-character variants of Windows APIs, i.e. 
CreateFileW

Luke

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Benjamin McBride" <benjamin.mcbride at gmail.com>
To: <pythonce at python.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 4:54 AM
Subject: Re: [PythonCE] serial port access


Thanks Gonzalo for your help.  I have read both the ctypes and
microsoft documentation.  My understanding is that I need to use the
CreateFile API function from the coredll to get a handle to the comm
port.  When I use ctypes:

>>> windll.coredll.CreateFile

I get an AttributeError saying the CreateFile function is not found.
Ironically, the ReadFile, WriteFile, and CloseHandle functions are all
found.

Am I just missing something simple here?

Ben

On 6/20/06, Gonzalo Monz?n <gmc at serveisw3.net> wrote:
> Have you read the ctypes docs?
>
> http://starship.python.net/crew/theller/ctypes/tutorial.html
>
> You have to read the Microsoft docs too, search what dynamic libraries
> to use and what functions to call. Study the example I posted, you have
> to call these functions using ctypes:
>
> (openfile, readfile, writefile...)
>
> Don't know if somebody has implemented serial access using ctypes as to
> post an example, read the docs, first you need to understand how ctypes
> work -for that you should know or learn what C variable types are and
> understand it almost a little bit, then the codeproject example will
> come in handy- otherwise could be hard to code... Though any ctypes
> example handling file or stream data may help you. Though pyserial uses
> ctypes too, so you could have a look to the sources. The differences are
> you have to use straight windows api calls, and pyserial calls a helper
> library wich should use windows api's for windows platform.
>
> I have to code serial access too in the next weeks, but don't have the
> time now to get my hands in it. If you are not in hurry I could post an
> example when done.
>
> Gonzalo.
>
>
> Benjamin McBride escribi?:
>
> >I've got ctypes installed.  However, I have not been able to find any
> >examples of how I might use ctypes for serial port access.  Any
> >suggestions would be appreciated.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Ben
> >
> >On 6/20/06, Gonzalo Monz?n <gmc at serveisw3.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hi Benjamin,
> >>
> >>You can use ctypes for direct access to serial ports via windows apis
> >>(openfile, readfile, writefile...)
> >>
> >>Note that manufacturers can have specific implementations, even they
> >>must agree to PPC implementation, but you can found small differences.
> >>
> >>http://www.codeproject.com/system/simpleserialcomm.asp
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>Gonzalo
> >>
> >>
> >>Benjamin McBride escribi?:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>    Hi All,
> >>>
> >>>    I need to access the serial port for my PPC application.  I have 
> >>> been
> >>>    unable to locate information on this.  I'm using Python 2.4.3 and 
> >>> PPC
> >>>    2003.  Previously I've used pyserial, but it appears that pyserial 
> >>> does
> >>>    not work on Windows CE.
> >>>
> >>>    Thanks for any suggestions,
> >>>
> >>>    Ben McBride
> >>>    bdm7935 at ksu.edu
> >>>_______________________________________________
> >>>PythonCE mailing list
> >>>PythonCE at python.org
> >>>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >_______________________________________________
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From M.C.Smit at tm.tue.nl  Fri Jun 23 17:21:18 2006
From: M.C.Smit at tm.tue.nl (Smit, M.C.)
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:21:18 +0200
Subject: [PythonCE] building a 'simple' example
Message-ID: <D0D13B0440FC1F4995BC4CD7F84A3A420352613A@tmex2.campus.tue.nl>

Dear all

While there have been some posts on this topic I don't believe the answer is in there jet.

Eventually I want to write (with help of a colliegue whom is experienced in c) a module that can use a device. Some c libraries are available, and all I realy need is a function that returns an Int or String when called.

I am trying to to build and run Listing 29-1 from the Python bible,
but so far I have been unable to compile annything that will work. 
MS eVC is installed, and it compiles and links with no errors or warnings.
but when I put the dll on the PDA, and run a test program all I get is an 

ImportError: DLL load failed:The specified module could not be found.

it can clearly find the file couse it knows it is a dll. I'm hoplessly lost on what could be wrong, does annyone have any ideas.

Cheers


here is the code:
// simple.cpp : Defines the entry point for the DLL application.
//

#include "Python.h"

static PyObject *simple_add(PyObject *pSelf, PyObject *pArgs)
{
	PyObject *pX, *pY;

	if (!PyArg_ParseTuple(pArgs, "OO", &pX, &pY))
		return NULL;

	return PyNumber_Add(pX, pY);
}

static char count_doc[] = "returns the number of arguments passed in";

static PyObject *simple_count(PyObject *pSelf, PyObject *pArgs)
{
	long count = PyTuple_Size(pArgs);
	return PyInt_FromLong(count);
}

static PyMethodDef simple_methods[] =
{
	{"add", simple_add, METH_VARARGS, NULL},
	{"count", simple_count, METH_VARARGS, count_doc},
	{NULL, NULL}
};

DL_EXPORT(void) initsimple()
{
	Py_InitModule("simple", simple_methods);
}






From coder_infidel at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 23 18:04:54 2006
From: coder_infidel at hotmail.com (Luke Dunstan)
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 00:04:54 +0800
Subject: [PythonCE] building a 'simple' example
References: <D0D13B0440FC1F4995BC4CD7F84A3A420352613A@tmex2.campus.tue.nl>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV13AB4399BD8EB7B7FE98A48A7A0@phx.gbl>


Hi,

Where did you put the DLL? What is it called? What were the commands that 
failed?

Luke

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Smit, M.C." <M.C.Smit at tm.tue.nl>
To: <pythonce at python.org>
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 11:21 PM
Subject: [PythonCE] building a 'simple' example


> Dear all
>
> While there have been some posts on this topic I don't believe the answer 
> is in there jet.
>
> Eventually I want to write (with help of a colliegue whom is experienced 
> in c) a module that can use a device. Some c libraries are available, and 
> all I realy need is a function that returns an Int or String when called.
>
> I am trying to to build and run Listing 29-1 from the Python bible,
> but so far I have been unable to compile annything that will work.
> MS eVC is installed, and it compiles and links with no errors or warnings.
> but when I put the dll on the PDA, and run a test program all I get is an
>
> ImportError: DLL load failed:The specified module could not be found.
>
> it can clearly find the file couse it knows it is a dll. I'm hoplessly 
> lost on what could be wrong, does annyone have any ideas.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> here is the code:
> // simple.cpp : Defines the entry point for the DLL application.
> //
>
> #include "Python.h"
>
> static PyObject *simple_add(PyObject *pSelf, PyObject *pArgs)
> {
> PyObject *pX, *pY;
>
> if (!PyArg_ParseTuple(pArgs, "OO", &pX, &pY))
> return NULL;
>
> return PyNumber_Add(pX, pY);
> }
>
> static char count_doc[] = "returns the number of arguments passed in";
>
> static PyObject *simple_count(PyObject *pSelf, PyObject *pArgs)
> {
> long count = PyTuple_Size(pArgs);
> return PyInt_FromLong(count);
> }
>
> static PyMethodDef simple_methods[] =
> {
> {"add", simple_add, METH_VARARGS, NULL},
> {"count", simple_count, METH_VARARGS, count_doc},
> {NULL, NULL}
> };
>
> DL_EXPORT(void) initsimple()
> {
> Py_InitModule("simple", simple_methods);
> }

From benjamin.mcbride at gmail.com  Fri Jun 23 18:20:23 2006
From: benjamin.mcbride at gmail.com (Benjamin McBride)
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:20:23 -0500
Subject: [PythonCE] serial port access
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-DAV108D678BA6D1F265EA831B8A840@phx.gbl>
References: <c1211b170606200820w22f7d7bat408897dbab5d4e2@mail.gmail.com>
	<44981DB8.4050502@serveisw3.net>
	<c1211b170606201311r26990525n3d6b1236abd87db9@mail.gmail.com>
	<44985D9A.5030305@serveisw3.net>
	<c1211b170606201354r24ccbc1by38cd3ac3da6a5ad1@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY109-DAV108D678BA6D1F265EA831B8A840@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <c1211b170606230920g54d2abf1jbbb1fb17732178f1@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks all for your help!

The final key was to use the wide-character variant of CreateFile.  As
soon as I have the code cleaned up I will post the code (should be in the
next day or so).  It will have a similar interface as pySerial.

Thanks,

Ben McBride

On 6/21/06, Luke Dunstan <coder_infidel at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> You need to use the wide-character variants of Windows APIs, i.e.
> CreateFileW
>
> Luke
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Benjamin McBride" <benjamin.mcbride at gmail.com>
> To: <pythonce at python.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 4:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [PythonCE] serial port access
>
>
> Thanks Gonzalo for your help.  I have read both the ctypes and
> microsoft documentation.  My understanding is that I need to use the
> CreateFile API function from the coredll to get a handle to the comm
> port.  When I use ctypes:
>
> >>> windll.coredll.CreateFile
>
> I get an AttributeError saying the CreateFile function is not found.
> Ironically, the ReadFile, WriteFile, and CloseHandle functions are all
> found.
>
> Am I just missing something simple here?
>
> Ben
>
> On 6/20/06, Gonzalo Monz?n <gmc at serveisw3.net> wrote:
> > Have you read the ctypes docs?
> >
> > http://starship.python.net/crew/theller/ctypes/tutorial.html
> >
> > You have to read the Microsoft docs too, search what dynamic libraries
> > to use and what functions to call. Study the example I posted, you have
> > to call these functions using ctypes:
> >
> > (openfile, readfile, writefile...)
> >
> > Don't know if somebody has implemented serial access using ctypes as to
> > post an example, read the docs, first you need to understand how ctypes
> > work -for that you should know or learn what C variable types are and
> > understand it almost a little bit, then the codeproject example will
> > come in handy- otherwise could be hard to code... Though any ctypes
> > example handling file or stream data may help you. Though pyserial uses
> > ctypes too, so you could have a look to the sources. The differences are
> > you have to use straight windows api calls, and pyserial calls a helper
> > library wich should use windows api's for windows platform.
> >
> > I have to code serial access too in the next weeks, but don't have the
> > time now to get my hands in it. If you are not in hurry I could post an
> > example when done.
> >
> > Gonzalo.
> >
> >
> > Benjamin McBride escribi?:
> >
> > >I've got ctypes installed.  However, I have not been able to find any
> > >examples of how I might use ctypes for serial port access.  Any
> > >suggestions would be appreciated.
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >Ben
> > >
> > >On 6/20/06, Gonzalo Monz?n <gmc at serveisw3.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>Hi Benjamin,
> > >>
> > >>You can use ctypes for direct access to serial ports via windows apis
> > >>(openfile, readfile, writefile...)
> > >>
> > >>Note that manufacturers can have specific implementations, even they
> > >>must agree to PPC implementation, but you can found small differences.
> > >>
> > >>http://www.codeproject.com/system/simpleserialcomm.asp
> > >>
> > >>Regards,
> > >>Gonzalo
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Benjamin McBride escribi?:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>    Hi All,
> > >>>
> > >>>    I need to access the serial port for my PPC application.  I have
> > >>> been
> > >>>    unable to locate information on this.  I'm using Python 2.4.3 and
> > >>> PPC
> > >>>    2003.  Previously I've used pyserial, but it appears that pyserial
> > >>> does
> > >>>    not work on Windows CE.
> > >>>
> > >>>    Thanks for any suggestions,
> > >>>
> > >>>    Ben McBride
> > >>>    bdm7935 at ksu.edu
> > >>>_______________________________________________
> > >>>PythonCE mailing list
> > >>>PythonCE at python.org
> > >>>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >PythonCE mailing list
> > >PythonCE at python.org
> > >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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>

From ke7fxl at gmail.com  Sat Jun 24 05:07:00 2006
From: ke7fxl at gmail.com (Tod Haren)
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:07:00 -0700
Subject: [PythonCE] Problem with ctypes
Message-ID: <6f5b2c4e0606232007k32f117bbyf23634b33a8ab6f8@mail.gmail.com>

The wince files on the ctypes sourceforge project site don't work for
me.  import ctypes was resulting in "import error: dll load failed".
I claimed to be unable to locate _ctypes.pyd even though it was
present and in sys.path.  I tried both 0.9.9.6 and 0.9.9.3 with no
luck, I tried different paths and configurations too.

I finally checked the the pythonce project and downloaded the 0.9.9.6
files from there.  They worked like a charm and now I'm up and running
ctypes again.

I have Python 2.4.3 running on a Dell Axim X5 with PPC 2003, installed
to the SD Card.

Has anyone else had similar problems?

Tod

From coder_infidel at hotmail.com  Sat Jun 24 10:20:13 2006
From: coder_infidel at hotmail.com (Luke Dunstan)
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:20:13 +0800
Subject: [PythonCE] Problem with ctypes
References: <6f5b2c4e0606232007k32f117bbyf23634b33a8ab6f8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV2F5A56DAC0EA065CCE3E18A7B0@phx.gbl>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tod Haren" <ke7fxl at gmail.com>
To: <pythonce at python.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 11:07 AM
Subject: [PythonCE] Problem with ctypes


> The wince files on the ctypes sourceforge project site don't work for
> me.  import ctypes was resulting in "import error: dll load failed".
> I claimed to be unable to locate _ctypes.pyd even though it was
> present and in sys.path.  I tried both 0.9.9.6 and 0.9.9.3 with no
> luck, I tried different paths and configurations too.

What was the name of the file you downloaded from the ctypes project? Are 
you sure it wasn't for Python 2.3?

Luke

>
> I finally checked the the pythonce project and downloaded the 0.9.9.6
> files from there.  They worked like a charm and now I'm up and running
> ctypes again.
>
> I have Python 2.4.3 running on a Dell Axim X5 with PPC 2003, installed
> to the SD Card.
>
> Has anyone else had similar problems?
>
> Tod

From ahmad at newhive.com  Sun Jun 25 13:00:35 2006
From: ahmad at newhive.com (ahmad adel rldardiry)
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 14:00:35 +0300
Subject: [PythonCE] Command line
Message-ID: <001e01c69846$9a0e5100$1501a8c0@ahmad>

?????? ????? ????? ???? ???????
May peace and Allah Mercy and Blessings be upon you,

Can I execute a .py as a commandline parameter to pythonce, giving that python is installed on the device?

eg.
start python.exe t.py (-hidden?)

Thanks


?? ??? ??? ????
There is no god but Allah


????
Ahmad
http://www.shagarah.com
http://www.newhive.com
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From M.C.Smit at tm.tue.nl  Mon Jun 26 09:40:50 2006
From: M.C.Smit at tm.tue.nl (Smit, M.C.)
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:40:50 +0200
Subject: [PythonCE] building a 'simple' example
References: <D0D13B0440FC1F4995BC4CD7F84A3A420352613A@tmex2.campus.tue.nl>
	<BAY109-DAV13AB4399BD8EB7B7FE98A48A7A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <D0D13B0440FC1F4995BC4CD7F84A3A420352613E@tmex2.campus.tue.nl>

Hi

The path is in sys.path. The DLL is next to the test programme that tries to import it, it name is simple.dll, andthe error is raised on: import simple

ImportError: DLL load failed:The specified module could not be found.

I'm running an winXP computer 
and an Ipac PDA winMobile 2003

thanks for your thoughts



-----Original Message-----
From:	pythonce-bounces at python.org on behalf of Luke Dunstan
Sent:	Fri 6/23/2006 6:04 PM
To:	pythonce at python.org
Cc:	
Subject:	Re: [PythonCE] building a 'simple' example


Hi,

Where did you put the DLL? What is it called? What were the commands that 
failed?

Luke

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Smit, M.C." <M.C.Smit at tm.tue.nl>
To: <pythonce at python.org>
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 11:21 PM
Subject: [PythonCE] building a 'simple' example


> Dear all
>
> While there have been some posts on this topic I don't believe the answer 
> is in there jet.
>
> Eventually I want to write (with help of a colliegue whom is experienced 
> in c) a module that can use a device. Some c libraries are available, and 
> all I realy need is a function that returns an Int or String when called.
>
> I am trying to to build and run Listing 29-1 from the Python bible,
> but so far I have been unable to compile annything that will work.
> MS eVC is installed, and it compiles and links with no errors or warnings.
> but when I put the dll on the PDA, and run a test program all I get is an
>
> ImportError: DLL load failed:The specified module could not be found.
>
> it can clearly find the file couse it knows it is a dll. I'm hoplessly 
> lost on what could be wrong, does annyone have any ideas.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> here is the code:
> // simple.cpp : Defines the entry point for the DLL application.
> //
>
> #include "Python.h"
>
> static PyObject *simple_add(PyObject *pSelf, PyObject *pArgs)
> {
> PyObject *pX, *pY;
>
> if (!PyArg_ParseTuple(pArgs, "OO", &pX, &pY))
> return NULL;
>
> return PyNumber_Add(pX, pY);
> }
>
> static char count_doc[] = "returns the number of arguments passed in";
>
> static PyObject *simple_count(PyObject *pSelf, PyObject *pArgs)
> {
> long count = PyTuple_Size(pArgs);
> return PyInt_FromLong(count);
> }
>
> static PyMethodDef simple_methods[] =
> {
> {"add", simple_add, METH_VARARGS, NULL},
> {"count", simple_count, METH_VARARGS, count_doc},
> {NULL, NULL}
> };
>
> DL_EXPORT(void) initsimple()
> {
> Py_InitModule("simple", simple_methods);
> }
_______________________________________________
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From gpetruc at gmail.com  Mon Jun 26 15:59:22 2006
From: gpetruc at gmail.com (Giovanni Petrucciani)
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:59:22 +0200
Subject: [PythonCE] building a 'simple' example
In-Reply-To: <D0D13B0440FC1F4995BC4CD7F84A3A420352613E@tmex2.campus.tue.nl>
References: <D0D13B0440FC1F4995BC4CD7F84A3A420352613A@tmex2.campus.tue.nl>	<BAY109-DAV13AB4399BD8EB7B7FE98A48A7A0@phx.gbl>
	<D0D13B0440FC1F4995BC4CD7F84A3A420352613E@tmex2.campus.tue.nl>
Message-ID: <449FE83A.6080502@gmail.com>

Smit, M.C. wrote:
> Hi
>
> The path is in sys.path. The DLL is next to the test programme that tries to import it, it name is simple.dll, andthe error is raised on: import simple
>
> ImportError: DLL load failed:The specified module could not be found.
>   
Just to catch a possible simple bug: did you rename the dll ?
I had problems when I was compiling sqlite, because I did build the dll
with a wrong name with EVC and then renamed it,
but dll have their name coded also inside and so it was not working.

       Giovanni

From generic3.20.fusion at neverbox.com  Tue Jun 27 09:13:39 2006
From: generic3.20.fusion at neverbox.com (Kevin Goodsell)
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:13:39 -0700
Subject: [PythonCE] Non-Python threads crash on errno access
In-Reply-To: <3e1a4c040606270002i2e8b2ac5g4dc0fa71e3e13981@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3e1a4c040606270002i2e8b2ac5g4dc0fa71e3e13981@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3e1a4c040606270013t7dd16fa4r918ad29a70fbaf30@mail.gmail.com>

We have a scenario where a Python program uses a C++ module. The C++
module creates its own threads, and these threads sometimes call back
into Python (after first acquiring the GIL, of course). This works
quite nicely on Linux and desktop Windows, but crashes on CE. After
some debugging I discovered the cause: PythonCE uses its own errno
macro which pulls a pointer out of thread-local storage and
dereferences it. This works fine if the thread was started in Python,
since new threads have a valid address placed into the thread-local
storage slot. Non-Python threads, however, have the default initial
value for the slot which happens to be zero, so dereferencing it
crashes the program.

As far as I can tell, there is no way to work around this that does
not involve modifying the PythonCE source. I think we need some call
we can make to initialize the thread-local storage for a non-Python
thread. The solution is complicated somewhat by the fact that I want
to be able to initialize the same thread multiple times without
breaking it. The reason for this probably requires some explanation.

The straight-forward approach would be to have any new non-Python
thread call an initialization function when it starts, then call a
de-register function when it finishes (just like Python threads
currently do). This approach falls short because it assumes that the
creator of a thread knows whether or not that thread will ever call
Python. This makes it impossible to take a general-purpose,
Python-agnostic C++ module that uses threads and a callback mechanism
and expose it to Python in a way that allows callbacks to be written
in Python.

Because of this, the only sensible approach is to surround the call
into Python with our register-thread and de-register-thread functions.
This is really not an extra burden, because we already have to
surround it with the GIL-acquiring and releasing functions.

Now, assume that a thread created in C++ calls into Python, which
calls back into C++, which calls into Python again. Since the calls
into Python are surrounded by the thread registration/de-registration
functions, the registration needs to be smart enough to do nothing the
second time, and only de-register the last time.

I think I have a solution, but it's not very nice. I'd like to see
some suggestions about how to handle this in a more elegant way, and
hopefully a permanent solution added to the official distribution.

Thanks.

-Kevin

From M.C.Smit at tm.tue.nl  Tue Jun 27 14:41:15 2006
From: M.C.Smit at tm.tue.nl (Smit, M.C.)
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:41:15 +0200
Subject: [PythonCE] building a 'simple' example
References: <D0D13B0440FC1F4995BC4CD7F84A3A420352613A@tmex2.campus.tue.nl><BAY109-DAV13AB4399BD8EB7B7FE98A48A7A0@phx.gbl>
	<D0D13B0440FC1F4995BC4CD7F84A3A420352613E@tmex2.campus.tue.nl>
Message-ID: <D0D13B0440FC1F4995BC4CD7F84A3A420352614A@tmex2.campus.tue.nl>

Giovanni Petrucciani wrote:
>Smit, M.C. wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> The path is in sys.path. The DLL is next to the test programme that tries to >import it, it name is simple.dll, andthe error is raised on: import simple
>>
>> ImportError: DLL load failed:The specified module could not be found.
>>   
>Just to catch a possible simple bug: did you rename the dll ?
>I had problems when I was compiling sqlite, because I did build the dll
>with a wrong name with EVC and then renamed it,
>but dll have their name coded also inside and so it was not working.
>
>       Giovanni

Hi Giovanni
Thanks for your hint but the dll was not renamed. (I did try changeing the extention to .pyd but that didn't help either)

cheers

From coder_infidel at hotmail.com  Tue Jun 27 17:12:57 2006
From: coder_infidel at hotmail.com (Luke Dunstan)
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:12:57 +0800
Subject: [PythonCE] building a 'simple' example
References: <D0D13B0440FC1F4995BC4CD7F84A3A420352613A@tmex2.campus.tue.nl>
	<BAY109-DAV13AB4399BD8EB7B7FE98A48A7A0@phx.gbl>
	<D0D13B0440FC1F4995BC4CD7F84A3A420352613E@tmex2.campus.tue.nl>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV3D74A600F98AA2CC71ED98A7E0@phx.gbl>


Hi,

I think the only way I could help further is if you posted a small but 
complete example that demonstrates the problem.

Luke

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Smit, M.C." <M.C.Smit at tm.tue.nl>
To: "Luke Dunstan" <coder_infidel at hotmail.com>; <pythonce at python.org>
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 3:40 PM
Subject: RE: [PythonCE] building a 'simple' example


Hi

The path is in sys.path. The DLL is next to the test programme that tries to 
import it, it name is simple.dll, andthe error is raised on: import simple

ImportError: DLL load failed:The specified module could not be found.

I'm running an winXP computer
and an Ipac PDA winMobile 2003

thanks for your thoughts



-----Original Message-----
From: pythonce-bounces at python.org on behalf of Luke Dunstan
Sent: Fri 6/23/2006 6:04 PM
To: pythonce at python.org
Cc:
Subject: Re: [PythonCE] building a 'simple' example


Hi,

Where did you put the DLL? What is it called? What were the commands that
failed?

Luke

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Smit, M.C." <M.C.Smit at tm.tue.nl>
To: <pythonce at python.org>
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 11:21 PM
Subject: [PythonCE] building a 'simple' example


> Dear all
>
> While there have been some posts on this topic I don't believe the answer
> is in there jet.
>
> Eventually I want to write (with help of a colliegue whom is experienced
> in c) a module that can use a device. Some c libraries are available, and
> all I realy need is a function that returns an Int or String when called.
>
> I am trying to to build and run Listing 29-1 from the Python bible,
> but so far I have been unable to compile annything that will work.
> MS eVC is installed, and it compiles and links with no errors or warnings.
> but when I put the dll on the PDA, and run a test program all I get is an
>
> ImportError: DLL load failed:The specified module could not be found.
>
> it can clearly find the file couse it knows it is a dll. I'm hoplessly
> lost on what could be wrong, does annyone have any ideas.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> here is the code:
> // simple.cpp : Defines the entry point for the DLL application.
> //
>
> #include "Python.h"
>
> static PyObject *simple_add(PyObject *pSelf, PyObject *pArgs)
> {
> PyObject *pX, *pY;
>
> if (!PyArg_ParseTuple(pArgs, "OO", &pX, &pY))
> return NULL;
>
> return PyNumber_Add(pX, pY);
> }
>
> static char count_doc[] = "returns the number of arguments passed in";
>
> static PyObject *simple_count(PyObject *pSelf, PyObject *pArgs)
> {
> long count = PyTuple_Size(pArgs);
> return PyInt_FromLong(count);
> }
>
> static PyMethodDef simple_methods[] =
> {
> {"add", simple_add, METH_VARARGS, NULL},
> {"count", simple_count, METH_VARARGS, count_doc},
> {NULL, NULL}
> };
>
> DL_EXPORT(void) initsimple()
> {
> Py_InitModule("simple", simple_methods);
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From bnml2 at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 27 18:24:09 2006
From: bnml2 at yahoo.com (Craig Thomasson)
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 09:24:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PythonCE] Problem with ctypes
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-DAV2F5A56DAC0EA065CCE3E18A7B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20060627162410.34725.qmail@web32007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I also had the same problem with the ctypes 0.9.9.6
module from the ctypes project.  I couldn't load the
.pyd file directly either regardless of the location
of the file.

Changing to the ctypes module from the pythonce
project made the problem go away for me as well.

I did notice in the ctypes project that there are
explicit releases for 2.3 and 2.4 for win32, but there
is only one release for wince-arm, and no idication if
it's for 2.3 or 2.4.  Is there any way to tell what
version of Python a particular .pyd file is built for
without installing different python versions?

Craig


--- Luke Dunstan <coder_infidel at hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tod Haren" <ke7fxl at gmail.com>
> To: <pythonce at python.org>
> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 11:07 AM
> Subject: [PythonCE] Problem with ctypes
> 
> 
> > The wince files on the ctypes sourceforge project
> site don't work for
> > me.  import ctypes was resulting in "import error:
> dll load failed".
> > I claimed to be unable to locate _ctypes.pyd even
> though it was
> > present and in sys.path.  I tried both 0.9.9.6 and
> 0.9.9.3 with no
> > luck, I tried different paths and configurations
> too.
> 
> What was the name of the file you downloaded from
> the ctypes project? Are 
> you sure it wasn't for Python 2.3?
> 
> Luke
> 
> >
> > I finally checked the the pythonce project and
> downloaded the 0.9.9.6
> > files from there.  They worked like a charm and
> now I'm up and running
> > ctypes again.
> >
> > I have Python 2.4.3 running on a Dell Axim X5 with
> PPC 2003, installed
> > to the SD Card.
> >
> > Has anyone else had similar problems?
> >
> > Tod
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From coder_infidel at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 28 13:51:02 2006
From: coder_infidel at hotmail.com (Luke Dunstan)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 19:51:02 +0800
Subject: [PythonCE] Command line
References: <001e01c69846$9a0e5100$1501a8c0@ahmad>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV802E37515FE37618F2F3D8A7F0@phx.gbl>


Hi,

Yes, you can run Python scripts by passing them on the command line to python.exe. This is what happens when you double-click a script. Are you having trouble in some way?

Luke

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ahmad adel rldardiry 
  To: PythonCE at python.org 
  Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 7:00 PM
  Subject: [PythonCE] Command line


  ?????? ????? ????? ???? ???????
  May peace and Allah Mercy and Blessings be upon you,

  Can I execute a .py as a commandline parameter to pythonce, giving that python is installed on the device?

  eg.
  start python.exe t.py (-hidden?)

  Thanks


  ?? ??? ??? ????
  There is no god but Allah


  ????
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From coder_infidel at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 28 15:36:40 2006
From: coder_infidel at hotmail.com (Luke Dunstan)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 21:36:40 +0800
Subject: [PythonCE] Command line
References: <001e01c69846$9a0e5100$1501a8c0@ahmad>
	<BAY109-DAV802E37515FE37618F2F3D8A7F0@phx.gbl>
	<001401c69aab$b47fd740$0e01a8c0@ahmad>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV11475E243D95D15F89FD4B8A7F0@phx.gbl>


Hi,

You will need to pass the script name as an absolute path. See also: http://pythonce.sourceforge.net/Wikka/UsingPythonCE

Luke

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ahmad adel rldardiry 
  To: Luke Dunstan 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 8:09 PM
  Subject: Re: [PythonCE] Command line



  ?????? ????? ????? ???? ???????
  May peace and Allah Mercy and Blessings be upon you,

  Thanks for replying, I thought nobody will!

  Yes I have tested it in the CMD (www.symbolictools.de)

  like this:
  cd program files\python24\
  start python.exe t.py


  in t.py:

  f=file('pp.txt','w')
  f.write('Besmellah')
  f.close()


  it gaves this error:


  Traceback (innermost last):
  <NULL>: <NULL>


  Also I want to be able to hide the file (hidden startup) is this possible?

  Thanks


  ?? ??? ??? ????
  There is no god but Allah


  ????
  Ahmad
  http://www.shagarah.com
  http://www.newhive.com
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Luke Dunstan 
    To: pythonce at python.org 
    Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 2:51 PM
    Subject: Re: [PythonCE] Command line



    Hi,

    Yes, you can run Python scripts by passing them on the command line to python.exe. This is what happens when you double-click a script. Are you having trouble in some way?

    Luke

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: ahmad adel rldardiry 
      To: PythonCE at python.org 
      Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 7:00 PM
      Subject: [PythonCE] Command line


      ?????? ????? ????? ???? ???????
      May peace and Allah Mercy and Blessings be upon you,

      Can I execute a .py as a commandline parameter to pythonce, giving that python is installed on the device?

      eg.
      start python.exe t.py (-hidden?)

      Thanks


      ?? ??? ??? ????
      There is no god but Allah


      ????
      Ahmad
      http://www.shagarah.com
      http://www.newhive.com


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From ke7fxl at gmail.com  Wed Jun 28 16:19:06 2006
From: ke7fxl at gmail.com (Tod Haren)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 07:19:06 -0700
Subject: [PythonCE] Problem with ctypes
In-Reply-To: <20060627162410.34725.qmail@web32007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <BAY109-DAV2F5A56DAC0EA065CCE3E18A7B0@phx.gbl>
	<20060627162410.34725.qmail@web32007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6f5b2c4e0606280719g68ffbbe5geb4f7c5d06dc7436@mail.gmail.com>

I concur with Craig.  There was no explicit indication what
python version the ctypes wince release was for.  At least not an
indication that I found.

From ke7fxl at gmail.com  Thu Jun 29 08:39:32 2006
From: ke7fxl at gmail.com (Tod Haren)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 23:39:32 -0700
Subject: [PythonCE] SQLite database with comtypes
Message-ID: <6f5b2c4e0606282339p24e9ccadx13f785898f4f7d30@mail.gmail.com>

Are other users having success with SQLite under PythonCE 2.4.3?  Are
you using pySQLite, comtypes, ctypes, or some other method?  I'm
having trouble getting started on the PPC.  On the desktop it seems to
work fine.

I've been trying to use comtypes to access a dll put out by the folks
at newObjects, since I'm not set up to build SQLite from source and
can't seem to find a binary anywhere.  If I had the WinCE SQLite
binary I suppose PySQLite would work.  Any tips, links, etc.?

The problem I'm having with the newObjects.sqlite.dbutf8 com module is this:

    from comtypes.client import CreateObject
    conn = CreateObject('newObjects.sqlite.dbutf8')
    conn.Open('\\some path\\aSQLiteDB.db')
    rs = conn.Execute("SELECT name FROM sqlite_master WHERE type='table';")
      Traceback (most recent call last):
(Very long traceback, here's just the last couple lines of it)
      File "\SD Card\PythonCE Python24\lib\ctypes\__init__.py", line
312, in __getitem__
        func = self._FuncPtr((name_or_ordinal, self))
    AttributeError: function 'SafeArrayCreateVectorEx' not found

The first time I ran CreateObjects on this the generate routines
appeared to finish properly.  I have not had problems with other com
modules, but my experience is very limited here.

This is beyond my limited knowledge at this point, of Python and Com
programming.  Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Tod

From ke7fxl at gmail.com  Thu Jun 29 09:38:38 2006
From: ke7fxl at gmail.com (Tod Haren)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 00:38:38 -0700
Subject: [PythonCE] win32com
Message-ID: <6f5b2c4e0606290038y2c12b7a0k9a1eda12467b2974@mail.gmail.com>

I know this has come up before, but is the win32com module available
for PythonCE2.4.3?  Google wasn't much help this time.

Tod

From mhammond at skippinet.com.au  Thu Jun 29 09:50:51 2006
From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 17:50:51 +1000
Subject: [PythonCE] win32com
In-Reply-To: <6f5b2c4e0606290038y2c12b7a0k9a1eda12467b2974@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <046601c69b50$be5c5950$100a0a0a@enfoldsystems.local>

> I know this has come up before, but is the win32com module available
> for PythonCE2.4.3?  Google wasn't much help this time.

As far as I know, it builds for Python CE (or is very close to it) - but I'm
not aware of anyone actually doing that build and making it available.  I'm
not currently in a position to.

Cheers,

Mark


From TGalvin at geminidataloggers.com  Thu Jun 29 09:34:18 2006
From: TGalvin at geminidataloggers.com (Tom Galvin)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 08:34:18 +0100
Subject: [PythonCE] subject  Command line
In-Reply-To: <mailman.27.1151316021.7128.pythonce@python.org>
Message-ID: <C9D19A363862284F9FA316375A3638CB572CB5@mercury.internal.geminidataloggers.com>

I use rapistart from Microsoft's Power Toys and run from the Host, for
example:

"%CEPOWERTOYS%\RAPI_Start\rapistart.exe" "\Program
Files\Python\python.exe" " 't.py' 'args'"

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=74473fd6-1dcc-4
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>>Message: 1
>>Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 14:00:35 +0300
>>From: "ahmad adel rldardiry" <ahmad at newhive.com>
>>Subject: [PythonCE] Command line
>>To: <PythonCE at python.org>
>>Message-ID: <001e01c69846$9a0e5100$1501a8c0 at ahmad>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1256"
>>
>>?????? ????? ????? ???? ???????
>>May peace and Allah Mercy and Blessings be upon you,
>>
>>Can I execute a .py as a commandline parameter to pythonce, giving
that
>>python is installed on the device?
>>
>>eg.
>>start python.exe t.py (-hidden?)
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>
>>?? ??? ??? ????
>>There is no god but Allah
>>
>>
>>????
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From gpetruc at gmail.com  Thu Jun 29 09:56:31 2006
From: gpetruc at gmail.com (Giovanni Petrucciani)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 09:56:31 +0200
Subject: [PythonCE] SQLite database with comtypes
In-Reply-To: <6f5b2c4e0606282339p24e9ccadx13f785898f4f7d30@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f5b2c4e0606282339p24e9ccadx13f785898f4f7d30@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44A387AF.9040301@gmail.com>

Tod Haren wrote:
> Are other users having success with SQLite under PythonCE 2.4.3?  Are
> you using pySQLite, comtypes, ctypes, or some other method?  I'm
> having trouble getting started on the PPC.  On the desktop it seems to
> work fine.
>
> I've been trying to use comtypes to access a dll put out by the folks
> at newObjects, since I'm not set up to build SQLite from source and
> can't seem to find a binary anywhere.  If I had the WinCE SQLite
> binary I suppose PySQLite would work.  Any tips, links, etc.?
I was able to compile and run pysqlite on pythonce 2.3.4, I suppose it
won't be too hard
to make it work also on python 2.4.3 but now I'm really too busy with my
thesis work

You can find the download and the instructions at
http://area51.sns.it/users/giovanni/python
(the link was down due to server problems, but now it should be working)

Within the download you can find the sqlite3 dll compiled for pocketpc arm,
which should be independent from the python version


       Giovanni


From coder_infidel at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 29 14:43:50 2006
From: coder_infidel at hotmail.com (Luke Dunstan)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:43:50 +0800
Subject: [PythonCE] Command line
References: <001e01c69846$9a0e5100$1501a8c0@ahmad><BAY109-DAV802E37515FE37618F2F3D8A7F0@phx.gbl><001401c69aab$b47fd740$0e01a8c0@ahmad>
	<BAY109-DAV11475E243D95D15F89FD4B8A7F0@phx.gbl>
	<003101c69adb$11f4a980$1f01a8c0@ahmad>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV12119158C74BCF88CDA5A68A7C0@phx.gbl>


It should work with spaces if you quote it properly (this is true of any operating system), e.g.

python "\my documents\python\test.py"

Luke

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ahmad adel rldardiry 
  To: Luke Dunstan 
  Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 1:48 AM
  Subject: Re: [PythonCE] Command line



  ?????? ????? ????? ???? ???????
  May peace and Allah Mercy and Blessings be upon you,


  Thanks a lot Luke.

  After some tests, it worked fine, also with the "/nopcceshell" flag (very cool).

  It seems that python does not accept paths with spaces though:
  python.exe \Program Files\ ...


  So now, if I wanted to distribute pythonce with a software I made (for using as command line) what license should I include or even do I have the right to?


  Thanks again.



  ?? ??? ??? ????
  There is no god but Allah


  ????
  Ahmad
  http://www.shagarah.com
  http://www.newhive.com
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Luke Dunstan 
    To: pythonce at python.org 
    Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 4:36 PM
    Subject: Re: [PythonCE] Command line



    Hi,

    You will need to pass the script name as an absolute path. See also: http://pythonce.sourceforge.net/Wikka/UsingPythonCE

    Luke

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: ahmad adel rldardiry 
      To: Luke Dunstan 
      Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 8:09 PM
      Subject: Re: [PythonCE] Command line



      ?????? ????? ????? ???? ???????
      May peace and Allah Mercy and Blessings be upon you,

      Thanks for replying, I thought nobody will!

      Yes I have tested it in the CMD (www.symbolictools.de)

      like this:
      cd program files\python24\
      start python.exe t.py


      in t.py:

      f=file('pp.txt','w')
      f.write('Besmellah')
      f.close()


      it gaves this error:


      Traceback (innermost last):
      <NULL>: <NULL>


      Also I want to be able to hide the file (hidden startup) is this possible?

      Thanks


      ?? ??? ??? ????
      There is no god but Allah


      ????
      Ahmad
      http://www.shagarah.com
      http://www.newhive.com
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Luke Dunstan 
        To: pythonce at python.org 
        Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 2:51 PM
        Subject: Re: [PythonCE] Command line



        Hi,

        Yes, you can run Python scripts by passing them on the command line to python.exe. This is what happens when you double-click a script. Are you having trouble in some way?

        Luke

          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: ahmad adel rldardiry 
          To: PythonCE at python.org 
          Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 7:00 PM
          Subject: [PythonCE] Command line


          ?????? ????? ????? ???? ???????
          May peace and Allah Mercy and Blessings be upon you,

          Can I execute a .py as a commandline parameter to pythonce, giving that python is installed on the device?

          eg.
          start python.exe t.py (-hidden?)

          Thanks


          ?? ??? ??? ????
          There is no god but Allah


          ????
          Ahmad
          http://www.shagarah.com
          http://www.newhive.com


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From ke7fxl at gmail.com  Thu Jun 29 20:57:41 2006
From: ke7fxl at gmail.com (Tod Haren)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:57:41 -0700
Subject: [PythonCE] SQLite database with comtypes
In-Reply-To: <44A387AF.9040301@gmail.com>
References: <6f5b2c4e0606282339p24e9ccadx13f785898f4f7d30@mail.gmail.com>
	<44A387AF.9040301@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6f5b2c4e0606291157vf05e67ao809dbc4a069d4ce6@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the link.  If I can get EVC4 working for me, I'll try the
build for pySQLite.  It would be good practice for me.

Tod

From coder_infidel at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 30 18:14:05 2006
From: coder_infidel at hotmail.com (Luke Dunstan)
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 00:14:05 +0800
Subject: [PythonCE] Problem with ctypes
References: <BAY109-DAV2F5A56DAC0EA065CCE3E18A7B0@phx.gbl><20060627162410.34725.qmail@web32007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<6f5b2c4e0606280719g68ffbbe5geb4f7c5d06dc7436@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV143F4D3931B6A1597B2D848A7D0@phx.gbl>


It does say so in the release notes linked from the SourceForge files page:

http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=411554&group_id=71702

Luke

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tod Haren" <ke7fxl at gmail.com>
To: <PythonCE at python.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [PythonCE] Problem with ctypes


>I concur with Craig.  There was no explicit indication what
> python version the ctypes wince release was for.  At least not an
> indication that I found.
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