From lukaszj at onet.pl  Mon Feb  2 09:39:50 2015
From: lukaszj at onet.pl (=?utf-8?q?=C5=81ukasz_Jakubowski?=)
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 09:39:50 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Problem of calling parameterless methods
Message-ID: <108852556-2c1e04825de66d3db8c78fcdb80f8c1c@pmq1v.m5r2.onet>

Hello,

Can the problem described here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10496681/python-idispatch-client-without-type-library be permanently fixed, or rather we should treat resorting to _make_method_ as a necessity? Or maybe there is a change possible on the COM program side?

Regards,



From lukaszj at onet.pl  Mon Feb  2 13:11:51 2015
From: lukaszj at onet.pl (=?utf-8?q?=C5=81ukasz_Jakubowski?=)
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 13:11:51 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Problem of calling parameterless methods
Message-ID: <85792252-6d06eea2f12a8a1c658968dc45719b4c@pmq2v.m5r2.onet>

Sorry, I missed the context:
http://resource.dopus.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=23896

Please note additionally that the solution proposed by jon does not actually work. 

The exception is:
myvec = factory._make_method_("Vector")
^
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<Script Block >", line 5, in OnClick
    myvec = factory._make_method_("Vector")
  File "C:\Python34\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\dynamic.py", line 317, in _make_method_
    methodCodeList = self._olerepr_.MakeFuncMethod(self._olerepr_.mapFuncs[name], methodName,0)
KeyError: 'Vector'
 (0x80020009)

Regards,

From antonxx at gmx.de  Tue Feb  3 23:49:51 2015
From: antonxx at gmx.de (anton)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 23:49:51 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] howto get the typename of a comobject
Message-ID: <marjag$hcs$1@ger.gmane.org>

Hi,

I an using python
using win32com.client to 
pilot CATIA.

I try to get the structure of the loaded CATProducts
CATParts and CATDrawings.

For this I would like to get the typename of the com
objects like "Document" or "Product".

In the vba example people use the VBA function TypeName()
to get the name of the type as string.

Unfortunately I didn't find an equivalent function for python
(or at least a way to achieve the same result).

The python type function is here not of use (I get always "COMObject").

Do you have a hint or small example?

Thanks

Anton


From amauryfa at gmail.com  Wed Feb  4 17:37:36 2015
From: amauryfa at gmail.com (Amaury Forgeot d'Arc)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 17:37:36 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] howto get the typename of a comobject
In-Reply-To: <marjag$hcs$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <marjag$hcs$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <CAGmFidYm-ewkCf7dUmjAQ0Rr_ZZezurwj566jPmTE9eaqarcqg@mail.gmail.com>

2015-02-03 23:49 GMT+01:00 anton <antonxx at gmx.de>:

> Hi,
>
> I an using python
> using win32com.client to
> pilot CATIA.
>
> I try to get the structure of the loaded CATProducts
> CATParts and CATDrawings.
>
> For this I would like to get the typename of the com
> objects like "Document" or "Product".
>
> In the vba example people use the VBA function TypeName()
> to get the name of the type as string.
>
> Unfortunately I didn't find an equivalent function for python
> (or at least a way to achieve the same result).
>
> The python type function is here not of use (I get always "COMObject").
>

It has been a long time, but I think that "print myobject" displays the
typename...


>
> Do you have a hint or small example?
>
> Thanks
>
> Anton
>
> _______________________________________________
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> python-win32 at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
>



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From A.Holtz at gmx.net  Thu Feb  5 22:07:03 2015
From: A.Holtz at gmx.net (Andreas Holtz)
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2015 22:07:03 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] howto get the typename of a comobject
In-Reply-To: <marjag$hcs$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <marjag$hcs$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <54D3DB77.9040304@gmx.net>

Hi Anton,

I think you need to rely to generated Python-Com-objects aka early binding.
See
http://timgolden.me.uk/python/win32_how_do_i/generate-a-static-com-proxy.html
for details.
There was another page explaining the differences really nicely between late and early binding and 
how to enforce the generation of the Python files.
Unfortunately I can't find it right now. I think it was on Tim Goldens or Mark Hammonds page. 
Perhaps they can help.

Nevertheless I can't recommend this way for CATIA! My experience is, that at least for CATIA the 
amount of functions you can use is smaller from early-binding-objects than from 
late-binding-objects. Which means you can't use a function although it should be there.

For CATIA I recommend instead using the ".Name"-property which you can use on every object. This 
helps at least in an interactive session, so you know what you are currently dealing with.

If you want to identify what the user selected or what kind of document the active document is, use 
the ".Name"-method of catia.ActiveDocument and check the file extension:

catia = win32com.client.Dispatch("CATIA.Application")
ext = os.path.splitext(catia.ActiveDocument.Name)[1].lower()

if ext == ".catpart": handleCatPart()
elif ....

If this is too unsafe for you, try getting specific properties and catch exceptions:

try:
   catia.ActiveDocument.Part
   isPart = True
except pywintypes.com_error:
   isPart = False

Another disadvantage of using EnsureDispatch instead of Dispatch is, that the user has to have 
write-rights on the Python-folder as the files are generated into a subfolder.

Good luck with CATIA, you will need it!

Andreas

anton schrieb am 03.02.2015 um 23:49:
> Hi,
>
> I an using python
> using win32com.client to
> pilot CATIA.
>
> I try to get the structure of the loaded CATProducts
> CATParts and CATDrawings.
>
> For this I would like to get the typename of the com
> objects like "Document" or "Product".
>
> In the vba example people use the VBA function TypeName()
> to get the name of the type as string.
>
> Unfortunately I didn't find an equivalent function for python
> (or at least a way to achieve the same result).
>
> The python type function is here not of use (I get always "COMObject").
>
> Do you have a hint or small example?
>
> Thanks
>
> Anton
>
> _______________________________________________
> python-win32 mailing list
> python-win32 at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
>

From claudemir.ar at gmail.com  Wed Feb 11 03:06:34 2015
From: claudemir.ar at gmail.com (Claudemir de almeida rosa)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 00:06:34 -0200
Subject: [python-win32] question about word addin , IRibbonExtensibility,
 GetCustomUI, getImage, IPicture
Message-ID: <CAJ5qjxFG87UpRgJyxJA9OadHDMevV9GT8bk3rjM4a+9vs1MZ1Q@mail.gmail.com>

can you send me an example to read image in addin with ribbon

Att

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From timr at probo.com  Wed Feb 11 19:21:55 2015
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 10:21:55 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] question about word addin , IRibbonExtensibility,
 GetCustomUI, getImage, IPicture
In-Reply-To: <CAJ5qjxFG87UpRgJyxJA9OadHDMevV9GT8bk3rjM4a+9vs1MZ1Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ5qjxFG87UpRgJyxJA9OadHDMevV9GT8bk3rjM4a+9vs1MZ1Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54DB9DC3.4080901@probo.com>

Claudemir de almeida rosa wrote:
> can you send me an example to read image in addin with ribbon

Your question is not clear.  Where is the image coming from, and where
do you want it to go?

The title of your message was copied word-for-word from a three-year-old
message on this mailing list, so I assume you've been through that
thread.  From that, you can see that it's not easy.  Did you have any
success?

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From claudemir.ar at gmail.com  Thu Feb 12 12:12:35 2015
From: claudemir.ar at gmail.com (Claudemir de almeida rosa)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 09:12:35 -0200
Subject: [python-win32] python-win32 Digest, Vol 143, Issue 7
In-Reply-To: <mailman.37.1423738803.10126.python-win32@python.org>
References: <mailman.37.1423738803.10126.python-win32@python.org>
Message-ID: <CAJ5qjxGAA6yFZ77j90-RGV-FRV1_Hb+kJAGA8MYRvRnqDF1eog@mail.gmail.com>

It still fails, follow example


#coding: gbk

from win32com import universal
from win32com.server.exception import COMException
from win32com.client import gencache, DispatchWithEvents
import winerror
import pythoncom
from win32com.client import constants, Dispatch
import sys
import win32com.client

# Support for COM objects we use.
gencache.EnsureModule('{2DF8D04C-5BFA-101B-BDE5-00AA0044DE52}', 0, 2, 1,
bForDemand=True) # Office 9
gencache.EnsureModule('{2DF8D04C-5BFA-101B-BDE5-00AA0044DE52}', 0, 2, 5,
bForDemand=True)

# The TLB defiining the interfaces we implement
universal.RegisterInterfaces('{AC0714F2-3D04-11D1-AE7D-00A0C90F26F4}', 0,
1, 0, ["_IDTExtensibility2"])
universal.RegisterInterfaces('{2DF8D04C-5BFA-101B-BDE5-00AA0044DE52}', 0,
2, 5, ["IRibbonExtensibility", "IRibbonControl"])

class ButtonEvent:
    def OnClick(self, button, cancel):
        import win32ui # Possible, but not necessary, to use a Pythonwin GUI
        import win32con
        win32ui.MessageBox("Hello from
Python","PythonTest",win32con.MB_OKCANCEL)
        return cancel

class WordAddin:
    _com_interfaces_ = ['_IDTExtensibility2', 'IRibbonExtensibility']
    _public_methods_ = ['do','GetImage']
    _reg_clsctx_ = pythoncom.CLSCTX_INPROC_SERVER
    _reg_clsid_ = "{C5482ECA-F559-45A0-B078-B2036E6F011A}"
    _reg_progid_ = "Python.Test.WordAddin"
    _reg_policy_spec_ = "win32com.server.policy.EventHandlerPolicy"

    def __init__(self):
        self.appHostApp = None

    def do(self,ctrl):
        import win32ui # Possible, but not necessary, to use a Pythonwin GUI
        import win32con
        win32ui.MessageBox("Hello from
Python","PythonTest",win32con.MB_OKCANCEL)

    def GetImage(self,ctrl):
        from gdiplus import LoadImage
        i = LoadImage( 'c:/edit.png' )
        print i, 'ddd'
        return i

    def GetCustomUI(self,control):
        s = '''
            <mso:customUI xmlns:x1="
http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2009/07/customui/macro" xmlns:mso="
http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2009/07/customui">
              <ribbon startFromScratch="false">
                <tabs>
                  <tab id="CustomTab" label="JJ">
                    <group id="MainGroup" label="Main">
                      <button id="Button" label="doo" imageMso="HappyFace"
                        size="large" onAction="do" />

                      <button id="Button2" label="doo2" getImage='GetImage'
                        size="large" onAction="do" />

                    </group>

                  </tab>
                </tabs>
              </ribbon>
            </customUI>
        '''
        return s

    def OnConnection(self, application, connectMode, addin, custom):
        print "OnConnection", application, connectMode, addin, custom
        try:
            self.appHostApp = application
        except pythoncom.com_error, (hr, msg, exc, arg):
            print "The Excel call failed with code %d: %s" % (hr, msg)
            if exc is None:
                print "There is no extended error information"
            else:
                wcode, source, text, helpFile, helpId, scode = exc
                print "The source of the error is", source
                print "The error message is", text
                print "More info can be found in %s (id=%d)" % (helpFile,
helpId)

    def OnDisconnection(self, mode, custom):
        print "OnDisconnection"
        #self.appHostApp.CommandBars("PythonBar").Delete
        self.appHostApp=None


    def OnAddInsUpdate(self, custom):
        print "OnAddInsUpdate", custom

    def OnStartupComplete(self, custom):
        print "OnStartupComplete", custom

    def OnBeginShutdown(self, custom):
        print "OnBeginShutdown", custom



def RegisterAddin(klass):
    import _winreg
    key = _winreg.CreateKey(_winreg.HKEY_CURRENT_USER,
"Software\\Microsoft\\Office\\Word\\Addins")
    subkey = _winreg.CreateKey(key, klass._reg_progid_)
    _winreg.SetValueEx(subkey, "CommandLineSafe", 0, _winreg.REG_DWORD, 0)
    _winreg.SetValueEx(subkey, "LoadBehavior", 0, _winreg.REG_DWORD, 3)
    _winreg.SetValueEx(subkey, "Description", 0, _winreg.REG_SZ, "Word
Addin")
    _winreg.SetValueEx(subkey, "FriendlyName", 0, _winreg.REG_SZ, "JJ Word
Addin")

def UnregisterAddin(klass):
    import _winreg
    try:
        _winreg.DeleteKey(_winreg.HKEY_CURRENT_USER,
"Software\\Microsoft\\Office\\Word\\Addins\\" + klass._reg_progid_)
    except WindowsError:
        pass

if __name__ == '__main__':
    import win32com.server.register
    win32com.server.register.UseCommandLine( WordAddin )
    if "--unregister" in sys.argv:
        UnregisterAddin( WordAddin )
    else:
        RegisterAddin( WordAddin )


att

Claudemir

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> Claudemir de almeida rosa wrote:
> > can you send me an example to read image in addin with ribbon
>
> Your question is not clear.  Where is the image coming from, and where
> do you want it to go?
>
> The title of your message was copied word-for-word from a three-year-old
> message on this mailing list, so I assume you've been through that
> thread.  From that, you can see that it's not easy.  Did you have any
> success?
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From lukaszj at onet.pl  Tue Feb 17 21:33:41 2015
From: lukaszj at onet.pl (=?iso-8859-2?B?o3VrYXN6IEpha3Vib3dza2k=?=)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 21:33:41 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] How pywin tells properties from function in COM?
Message-ID: <op.xt7x2fr8f43b9h@pecet>

Hi,

There is this entry in dynamic.py/_FlagAsMethod:

"Some objects do not correctly differentiate methods and properties,  
leading to problems when calling these methods."

My question is: what actually makes a difference? Going through dynamic.py  
and build.py it seems to me, that all is hidden behind pythoncom34.dll  
containing mapping for dynamic.py/ALL_INVOKE_TYPES.
Something in COM Server - not a Python one - (one of IDispatch methods?)  
must provide correct parameters - which method is it?

TIA & Regards,
?ukasz

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From timr at probo.com  Tue Feb 17 23:11:30 2015
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 14:11:30 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] How pywin tells properties from function in COM?
In-Reply-To: <op.xt7x2fr8f43b9h@pecet>
References: <op.xt7x2fr8f43b9h@pecet>
Message-ID: <54E3BC92.6080602@probo.com>

?ukasz Jakubowski wrote:
> There is this entry in dynamic.py/_FlagAsMethod:
>
> "Some objects do not correctly differentiate methods and properties,  
> leading to problems when calling these methods."
>
> My question is: what actually makes a difference?

It is strictly a software convention.  A property has methods that start
with get_ and/or put_, with one parameter.  So, for a property called
"Size", you would have methods called get_Size and put_Size, each taking
one parameter.

As you can see, it's a bit squishy.  There's no better way to do that in
C++.

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From rosuav at gmail.com  Thu Feb 19 11:23:46 2015
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 21:23:46 +1100
Subject: [python-win32] Using pip to install pywin32
Message-ID: <CAPTjJmqJU2HF1m_HNwN0ty1vFkJsxFApHB6jLP9Nht2-GzvC+g@mail.gmail.com>

Has anyone successfully pip installed the pywin32 package? I'm having
some trouble with it at the moment. In theory, it should be easier to
instruct people to "type pip install pywin32" than "go to the
sourceforge download page, pick the right installer, and run it"; but
the installer is currently failing.

Full log is available if people want it, but what I'm seeing in it is
a number of lines like:

Analyzing links from page http://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32/files/pywin32/

It never gets to the point of searching the build-specific pages, eg:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32/files/pywin32/Build%20219/

Is there a way to tell pip how to find the file?

All advice gratefully received!

ChrisA

From kevin.horn at gmail.com  Fri Feb 20 07:39:21 2015
From: kevin.horn at gmail.com (Kevin Horn)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 00:39:21 -0600
Subject: [python-win32] Using pip to install pywin32
In-Reply-To: <CAPTjJmqJU2HF1m_HNwN0ty1vFkJsxFApHB6jLP9Nht2-GzvC+g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPTjJmqJU2HF1m_HNwN0ty1vFkJsxFApHB6jLP9Nht2-GzvC+g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+U=zK1=+zaUGrE=fPkds+Fhc9eGfATVv19y-c+57cGwbE8q4g@mail.gmail.com>

check out this bug:
http://sourceforge.net/p/pywin32/bugs/669/

There's been some interest, but the pywin32 developers themselves don't
seem to have gotten involved.

I'm not sure why.  It would be really nice to have pywin32 be
pip-installable.



On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 4:23 AM, Chris Angelico <rosuav at gmail.com> wrote:

> Has anyone successfully pip installed the pywin32 package? I'm having
> some trouble with it at the moment. In theory, it should be easier to
> instruct people to "type pip install pywin32" than "go to the
> sourceforge download page, pick the right installer, and run it"; but
> the installer is currently failing.
>
> Full log is available if people want it, but what I'm seeing in it is
> a number of lines like:
>
> Analyzing links from page
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32/files/pywin32/
>
> It never gets to the point of searching the build-specific pages, eg:
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32/files/pywin32/Build%20219/
>
> Is there a way to tell pip how to find the file?
>
> All advice gratefully received!
>
> ChrisA
> _______________________________________________
> python-win32 mailing list
> python-win32 at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
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From vernondcole at gmail.com  Fri Feb 20 15:07:59 2015
From: vernondcole at gmail.com (Vernon D. Cole)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 07:07:59 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] Using pip to install pywin32
In-Reply-To: <CA+U=zK1=+zaUGrE=fPkds+Fhc9eGfATVv19y-c+57cGwbE8q4g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPTjJmqJU2HF1m_HNwN0ty1vFkJsxFApHB6jLP9Nht2-GzvC+g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CA+U=zK1=+zaUGrE=fPkds+Fhc9eGfATVv19y-c+57cGwbE8q4g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAH-ZgAe9YdXFnpL9VYP8f_nEN-aGtBUX4AGRJ64DjOD1N4Tkqg@mail.gmail.com>

Pywin32 is mostly written in C, and has lots of dependencies and weird
build requirements.  In order to compile it, you must have the same C
compiler that your release of Python was built with. For older Python
versions (like 2.7) that compiler is obsolete and hard to find, so installs
from source are pretty nearly impossible.

  Would a binary wheel be able to do all of the crazy set up that the
Windows installer does?
The project is open source, and patches are happily accepted.



On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 11:39 PM, Kevin Horn <kevin.horn at gmail.com> wrote:

> check out this bug:
> http://sourceforge.net/p/pywin32/bugs/669/
>
> There's been some interest, but the pywin32 developers themselves don't
> seem to have gotten involved.
>
> I'm not sure why.  It would be really nice to have pywin32 be
> pip-installable.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 4:23 AM, Chris Angelico <rosuav at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone successfully pip installed the pywin32 package? I'm having
>> some trouble with it at the moment. In theory, it should be easier to
>> instruct people to "type pip install pywin32" than "go to the
>> sourceforge download page, pick the right installer, and run it"; but
>> the installer is currently failing.
>>
>> Full log is available if people want it, but what I'm seeing in it is
>> a number of lines like:
>>
>> Analyzing links from page
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32/files/pywin32/
>>
>> It never gets to the point of searching the build-specific pages, eg:
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32/files/pywin32/Build%20219/
>>
>> Is there a way to tell pip how to find the file?
>>
>> All advice gratefully received!
>>
>> ChrisA
>> _______________________________________________
>> python-win32 mailing list
>> python-win32 at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
>>
>
>
>
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> --
> Kevin Horn
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From theller at ctypes.org  Fri Feb 20 16:24:04 2015
From: theller at ctypes.org (Thomas Heller)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:24:04 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Using pip to install pywin32
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Am 20.02.2015 um 15:07 schrieb Vernon D. Cole:
> Pywin32 is mostly written in C, and has lots of dependencies and weird
> build requirements.  In order to compile it, you must have the same C
> compiler that your release of Python was built with. For older Python
> versions (like 2.7) that compiler is obsolete and hard to find, so
> installs from source are pretty nearly impossible.
>
>    Would a binary wheel be able to do all of the crazy set up that the
> Windows installer does?

AFAIK, wheel do not support post_install scripts.

According to the comments in Scripts\pywin32_postinstall.py, it does:

# copies PyWinTypesxx.dll and PythonCOMxx.dll into the system directory,
# and creates a pth file

According to the code, it does a lot more...

I don't think pip can run this script (it even needs admin privs!).

Thomas


From planders at gmail.com  Fri Feb 20 17:31:14 2015
From: planders at gmail.com (Preston Landers)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 10:31:14 -0600
Subject: [python-win32] Using pip to install pywin32
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>  I don't think pip can run this script (it even needs admin privs!).

Is there a reason it couldn't run a script that presents a UAC prompt to
elevate the process?

Something like this:
https://gist.github.com/Preston-Landers/267391562bc96959eb41

I guess for unattended installs you could just elevate the process
beforehand.

-Preston



On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Thomas Heller <theller at ctypes.org> wrote:

> Am 20.02.2015 um 15:07 schrieb Vernon D. Cole:
>
>> Pywin32 is mostly written in C, and has lots of dependencies and weird
>> build requirements.  In order to compile it, you must have the same C
>> compiler that your release of Python was built with. For older Python
>> versions (like 2.7) that compiler is obsolete and hard to find, so
>> installs from source are pretty nearly impossible.
>>
>>    Would a binary wheel be able to do all of the crazy set up that the
>> Windows installer does?
>>
>
> AFAIK, wheel do not support post_install scripts.
>
> According to the comments in Scripts\pywin32_postinstall.py, it does:
>
> # copies PyWinTypesxx.dll and PythonCOMxx.dll into the system directory,
> # and creates a pth file
>
> According to the code, it does a lot more...
>
> I don't think pip can run this script (it even needs admin privs!).
>
> Thomas
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> python-win32 mailing list
> python-win32 at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
>
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From zturner at google.com  Fri Feb 20 17:41:47 2015
From: zturner at google.com (Zachary Turner)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:41:47 +0000
Subject: [python-win32] extension modules and msvc version
Message-ID: <CAAErz9jabqWRaG-VQ5-jZ_RYtfBQNFk6GJmQaf75xKRCSUBaDg@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone understand the technical reasons why an extension module must
be compiled with the same version of msvc as python itself? Are there any
workarounds? It's really quite an inconvenience.

If the reason is because python27.dll and the extension module free each
others' memory, then it seems like this could be solved by having each
supply the other with an alloc and free function pointer, and using the
correct allocator on each side.

Is the situation better in python 3 than it is in 2.7? And is anyone aware
of any ways to get around this restriction so that i can write an extension
module that will work with a binary release of python?
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From planders at gmail.com  Fri Feb 20 17:58:37 2015
From: planders at gmail.com (Preston Landers)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 10:58:37 -0600
Subject: [python-win32] Using pip to install pywin32
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Actually that gist wouldn't help much since it uses pywin32, the thing
we're trying to install. (derp!) There may be another way though.

Possibly related:  http://bugs.python.org/issue20641



On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Preston Landers <planders at gmail.com>
wrote:

> >  I don't think pip can run this script (it even needs admin privs!).
>
> Is there a reason it couldn't run a script that presents a UAC prompt to
> elevate the process?
>
> Something like this:
> https://gist.github.com/Preston-Landers/267391562bc96959eb41
>
> I guess for unattended installs you could just elevate the process
> beforehand.
>
> -Preston
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Thomas Heller <theller at ctypes.org> wrote:
>
>> Am 20.02.2015 um 15:07 schrieb Vernon D. Cole:
>>
>>> Pywin32 is mostly written in C, and has lots of dependencies and weird
>>> build requirements.  In order to compile it, you must have the same C
>>> compiler that your release of Python was built with. For older Python
>>> versions (like 2.7) that compiler is obsolete and hard to find, so
>>> installs from source are pretty nearly impossible.
>>>
>>>    Would a binary wheel be able to do all of the crazy set up that the
>>> Windows installer does?
>>>
>>
>> AFAIK, wheel do not support post_install scripts.
>>
>> According to the comments in Scripts\pywin32_postinstall.py, it does:
>>
>> # copies PyWinTypesxx.dll and PythonCOMxx.dll into the system directory,
>> # and creates a pth file
>>
>> According to the code, it does a lot more...
>>
>> I don't think pip can run this script (it even needs admin privs!).
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> python-win32 mailing list
>> python-win32 at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
>>
>
>
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From rosuav at gmail.com  Fri Feb 20 17:58:51 2015
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 03:58:51 +1100
Subject: [python-win32] extension modules and msvc version
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On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:41 AM, Zachary Turner <zturner at google.com> wrote:
> Is the situation better in python 3 than it is in 2.7? And is anyone aware
> of any ways to get around this restriction so that i can write an extension
> module that will work with a binary release of python?

It's going to be better, starting from Python 3.5; Microsoft is
guaranteeing a measure of binary compatibility for future compiler
versions. Unfortunately the guarantee requires some internal changes,
so it's moving forward only, not backward. The fate of Python 2.7 is
very much up in the air, because the compiler that was used for 2.7.0
won't be supported in 2020 (I think it might be already out of
support), so there's a big question of whether or not to change
compilers in the middle of a minor version. Neither option is good.

ChrisA

From kevin.horn at gmail.com  Fri Feb 20 18:09:19 2015
From: kevin.horn at gmail.com (Kevin Horn)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 11:09:19 -0600
Subject: [python-win32] Using pip to install pywin32
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On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 8:07 AM, Vernon D. Cole <vernondcole at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Pywin32 is mostly written in C, and has lots of dependencies and weird
> build requirements.  In order to compile it, you must have the same C
> compiler that your release of Python was built with. For older Python
> versions (like 2.7) that compiler is obsolete and hard to find, so installs
> from source are pretty nearly impossible.
>
>
Microsoft provides a compiler package for Python 2.7 specifically for
creating binary wheels (and other binary distros):
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=44266



>   Would a binary wheel be able to do all of the crazy set up that the
> Windows installer does?
>

No it wouldn't, but a lot of the postinstall stuff isn't necessary for many
uses of pywin32.  It's probably still worthwhile to package it as a wheel
for those use cases.

At least it's useful enough that there's an alternate distribution called
"pypiwin32":
https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pypiwin32


> The project is open source, and patches are happily accepted.
>

According to the bug I referenced above, the only thing necessary to get
most functionality working is a tweak to the path files.

Also according to the same bug, it looks as though those involved couldn't
figure out where to send patches.  Where should patches/contributions be
sent in order to get the attention of those who can merge them?


>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 11:39 PM, Kevin Horn <kevin.horn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> check out this bug:
>> http://sourceforge.net/p/pywin32/bugs/669/
>>
>> There's been some interest, but the pywin32 developers themselves don't
>> seem to have gotten involved.
>>
>> I'm not sure why.  It would be really nice to have pywin32 be
>> pip-installable.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 4:23 AM, Chris Angelico <rosuav at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone successfully pip installed the pywin32 package? I'm having
>>> some trouble with it at the moment. In theory, it should be easier to
>>> instruct people to "type pip install pywin32" than "go to the
>>> sourceforge download page, pick the right installer, and run it"; but
>>> the installer is currently failing.
>>>
>>> Full log is available if people want it, but what I'm seeing in it is
>>> a number of lines like:
>>>
>>> Analyzing links from page
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32/files/pywin32/
>>>
>>> It never gets to the point of searching the build-specific pages, eg:
>>>
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32/files/pywin32/Build%20219/
>>>
>>> Is there a way to tell pip how to find the file?
>>>
>>> All advice gratefully received!
>>>
>>> ChrisA
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> python-win32 mailing list
>>> python-win32 at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Kevin Horn
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> python-win32 mailing list
>> python-win32 at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
>>
>>
>


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From zturner at google.com  Fri Feb 20 18:18:55 2015
From: zturner at google.com (Zachary Turner)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:18:55 +0000
Subject: [python-win32] extension modules and msvc version
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Is it completely out of the question to change the way extension modules
and python talk to each other? For example, suppose python is changed in a
minor version such that it will be able to detect an extension module
compiled with some flag, say PYTHON_EXTENSION_ABI_COMPATIBLE. Python sees
that you compiled your extension module this way, and does something
different internally that allows them to not free each others' memory. Like
registering allocators with each other at startup. Unless both python and
the extension module are built against the same minor version or higher,
both sides continue to behave as they currently do.

I don't know anything about Python implementation internals, but is
something like this possible?
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 9:06 AM Chris Angelico <rosuav at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:41 AM, Zachary Turner <zturner at google.com>
> wrote:
> > Is the situation better in python 3 than it is in 2.7? And is anyone
> aware
> > of any ways to get around this restriction so that i can write an
> extension
> > module that will work with a binary release of python?
>
> It's going to be better, starting from Python 3.5; Microsoft is
> guaranteeing a measure of binary compatibility for future compiler
> versions. Unfortunately the guarantee requires some internal changes,
> so it's moving forward only, not backward. The fate of Python 2.7 is
> very much up in the air, because the compiler that was used for 2.7.0
> won't be supported in 2020 (I think it might be already out of
> support), so there's a big question of whether or not to change
> compilers in the middle of a minor version. Neither option is good.
>
> ChrisA
> _______________________________________________
> python-win32 mailing list
> python-win32 at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
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From zturner at google.com  Fri Feb 20 18:21:08 2015
From: zturner at google.com (Zachary Turner)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:21:08 +0000
Subject: [python-win32] extension modules and msvc version
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In other words, I'm postulating that the strict abi compatibility
requirement might be something we can fix in Python, and not rely on
Microsoft to support this in CRT
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 9:18 AM Zachary Turner <zturner at google.com> wrote:

> Is it completely out of the question to change the way extension modules
> and python talk to each other? For example, suppose python is changed in a
> minor version such that it will be able to detect an extension module
> compiled with some flag, say PYTHON_EXTENSION_ABI_COMPATIBLE. Python sees
> that you compiled your extension module this way, and does something
> different internally that allows them to not free each others' memory. Like
> registering allocators with each other at startup. Unless both python and
> the extension module are built against the same minor version or higher,
> both sides continue to behave as they currently do.
>
> I don't know anything about Python implementation internals, but is
> something like this possible?
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 9:06 AM Chris Angelico <rosuav at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:41 AM, Zachary Turner <zturner at google.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Is the situation better in python 3 than it is in 2.7? And is anyone
>> aware
>> > of any ways to get around this restriction so that i can write an
>> extension
>> > module that will work with a binary release of python?
>>
>> It's going to be better, starting from Python 3.5; Microsoft is
>> guaranteeing a measure of binary compatibility for future compiler
>> versions. Unfortunately the guarantee requires some internal changes,
>> so it's moving forward only, not backward. The fate of Python 2.7 is
>> very much up in the air, because the compiler that was used for 2.7.0
>> won't be supported in 2020 (I think it might be already out of
>> support), so there's a big question of whether or not to change
>> compilers in the middle of a minor version. Neither option is good.
>>
>> ChrisA
>> _______________________________________________
>> python-win32 mailing list
>> python-win32 at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
>>
>
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From rosuav at gmail.com  Fri Feb 20 18:22:56 2015
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 04:22:56 +1100
Subject: [python-win32] extension modules and msvc version
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On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:18 AM, Zachary Turner <zturner at google.com> wrote:
> Is it completely out of the question to change the way extension modules and
> python talk to each other?
>
> I don't know anything about Python implementation internals, but is
> something like this possible?

I've no idea, my previous post pretty much exhausted my entire
knowledge of the building of Python extensions for Windows :) But that
sounds like a great topic for python-ideas or python-dev... and a PEP,
and a lengthy period of bikeshedding, and lots of people telling you
it isn't possible, and lots of other people telling you it's easy...
Have fun with it!

ChrisA

From theller at ctypes.org  Fri Feb 20 18:59:48 2015
From: theller at ctypes.org (Thomas Heller)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:59:48 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Using pip to install pywin32
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Am 20.02.2015 um 17:58 schrieb Preston Landers:
> Actually that gist wouldn't help much since it uses pywin32, the thing
> we're trying to install. (derp!) There may be another way though.

Sure, you could port the gist to ctypes instead of pywin32.

However, the problem is that pip doesn't run postinstall scripts
(or that the wheel format does not include them).  Something like that.


From theller at ctypes.org  Fri Feb 20 19:02:43 2015
From: theller at ctypes.org (Thomas Heller)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 19:02:43 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] extension modules and msvc version
In-Reply-To: <CAAErz9jabqWRaG-VQ5-jZ_RYtfBQNFk6GJmQaf75xKRCSUBaDg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAErz9jabqWRaG-VQ5-jZ_RYtfBQNFk6GJmQaf75xKRCSUBaDg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mc7slq$v3o$2@ger.gmane.org>

Am 20.02.2015 um 17:41 schrieb Zachary Turner:
> Does anyone understand the technical reasons why an extension module
> must be compiled with the same version of msvc as python itself? Are
> there any workarounds? It's really quite an inconvenience.
>
> If the reason is because python27.dll and the extension module free each
> others' memory, then it seems like this could be solved by having each
> supply the other with an alloc and free function pointer, and using the
> correct allocator on each side.
>
> Is the situation better in python 3 than it is in 2.7? And is anyone
> aware of any ways to get around this restriction so that i can write an
> extension module that will work with a binary release of python?

pep 384 solves this problem.



From rnk at google.com  Fri Feb 20 20:39:11 2015
From: rnk at google.com (Reid Kleckner)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 11:39:11 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] Instructions for building and installing Python 2.7
 on Windows with VS 2013 or newer
Message-ID: <CACs=tyJ7kXZp_L9yqW3R57n-apez6JG+LH1K9WS5wC0Ap9sFTw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, I've successfully used the solution in the PCBuild directory to build
CPython. However, now I have a binary and collection of .pyd files that
aren't really a coherent installation. How do I do the equivalent of a
"make install" step on Windows?

My ultimate goal is to get a directory that looks like the C:\Python27
directory produced by running the official MSI download. I suspect the
easiest way to achieve this is to build such an MSI and then run it. That's
totally fine with me.

I've done a fair amount of searching, but I've found results like the
following which just have scripts that manually copy files into place in a
way that sort of looks like an official installation. I'd like to do things
the canonical way, if possible. I haven't been able to find this anywhere
in docs.python.org, but maybe I'm blind.
http://docs.python-guide.org/en/latest/starting/install/win/

Thanks!
Reid
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From timr at probo.com  Sat Feb 21 19:55:56 2015
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 10:55:56 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] extension modules and msvc version
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On Feb 20, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Zachary Turner <zturner at google.com> wrote:
> 
> Does anyone understand the technical reasons why an extension module must be compiled with the same version of msvc as python itself? Are there any workarounds? It's really quite an inconvenience.
> 
> If the reason is because python27.dll and the extension module free each others' memory, then it seems like this could be solved by having each supply the other with an alloc and free function pointer, and using the correct allocator on each side.

It?s more than just the heaps, although that?s a part of it.  The run-time library contains state held in static variables.  When you have multiple versions of the run-time library, they don?t share that state.  The C variable ?stdin?, for example, is a pointer into a static array of file instances.  When you have multiple run-time libraries, there are multiple buffers for ?stdin?.  Prints from one user will not be seamlessly integrated with prints from the other.
? 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From wbrucek at gmail.com  Mon Feb 23 18:46:02 2015
From: wbrucek at gmail.com (Willem Krayenhoff)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 09:46:02 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] Tooltip Autocomplete for Win32com for Excel
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I'm finding it difficult to figure out how to do stuff in Excel from
Python.  I don't know what properties or parameters are available for each
object (PyCharm usually provides this via tooltip).  Is there a way to get
this tooltip help when using Win32com?

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From timr at probo.com  Mon Feb 23 19:45:42 2015
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 10:45:42 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] Tooltip Autocomplete for Win32com for Excel
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Willem Krayenhoff wrote:
> I'm finding it difficult to figure out how to do stuff in Excel from
> Python.  I don't know what properties or parameters are available for
> each object (PyCharm usually provides this via tooltip).  Is there a
> way to get this tooltip help when using Win32com?

In general, the best path is to use Microsoft's MSDN documentation for
the Excel object model.
    https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/wss56bz7.aspx
You'll have to do a certain amount of translation from C++ or C# into
Python, but that's usually pretty obvious.

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Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From divelez69 at gmail.com  Tue Feb 24 17:53:17 2015
From: divelez69 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Diego_V=C3=A9lez_Torres?=)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 11:53:17 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] I need to make a COM object with py2exe. Please HELP!
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Hi everyone out there:

I need to make a COM object upon my Python code, so I can call it from .NET
programs (ie. Visual Basic, VB6).  I need the COM object (or DLL) to be
stand alone, because the target PCs where the final programs are going to
run won't have Python installed. I know so far that py2exe supports this
directly: http://www.py2exe.org/index.cgi/Py2exeAndCtypesComDllServer

I've tried to make some samples with the given link's instructions, but I
haven't been lucky. I only got empty 'dist' and 'build' folders. I've
search for documentation on the web for quite a long time with no luck. I
realized that I need more information besides the one provided by the
above's link:


   1. How the Python module that I want to compile must be written?  I
   mean, all functions and classes in module will be available for the outside
   code through the COM Object?  That module needs specific lines of code?
   2. py2exe looks for a __init__.py inside the 'dir' where the module I
   want to compile is.  What's the purpose of the __init__ file?  What should
   be in it?
   3. Are there any specific information about the configuration of the
   setup.py?  Even though the given link's code example explains something, it
   is not clear (at least for me).  That's why I got just empty folders as a
   result.
   4. Are there more examples available?
   5. etc.


I'll highly appreciate if you can provide with the most complete
documentation and tutorial available (step by step if possible).  Please,
consider that my experience with DLLs and COM objects is practically null.

-- 
Diego V?lez Torres
divelez69 at gmail.com
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From timr at probo.com  Tue Feb 24 19:07:09 2015
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 10:07:09 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] I need to make a COM object with py2exe. Please
 HELP!
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Diego V?lez Torres wrote:
>
> I need to make a COM object upon my Python code, so I can call it from
> .NET programs (ie. Visual Basic, VB6).  I need the COM object (or DLL)
> to be stand alone, because the target PCs where the final programs are
> going to run won't have Python installed. I know so far that py2exe
> supports this directly:
> http://www.py2exe.org/index.cgi/Py2exeAndCtypesComDllServer
>
> I've tried to make some samples with the given link's instructions,
> but I haven't been lucky. I only got empty 'dist' and 'build' folders.
> I've search for documentation on the web for quite a long time with no
> luck. I realized that I need more information besides the one provided
> by the above's link:
>
>  1. How the Python module that I want to compile must be written?  I
>     mean, all functions and classes in module will be available for
>     the outside code through the COM Object?  That module needs
>     specific lines of code?
>

What you are trying to create is a COM server.  If you search for
"python COM server", you will find many examples.  It does have to be
written in a particular way.  You have to identify the functions you
want to be exposed, the registry program ID, and the registry GUID in
specially named class members (_public_methods_, _reg_progid_, _reg_clsid_).

I suggest you make the COM part work first.  Once you have that working,
then you can dig in to py2exe to make it standalone.

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From wbrucek at gmail.com  Sat Feb 28 02:20:54 2015
From: wbrucek at gmail.com (Willem Krayenhoff)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 17:20:54 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] Win32com VS PyCom
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I'm using Python's Win32com right now to work with Excel.  Is PyCOM another
library with which you can do the same?

-- 
Thanks,

Bruce

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