[python-win32] Win32 GUI for beginners.

[Jacob Kruger]

Sean, I am also what some of us refer to as a blindie, and, AFAIK, wxPython
is roundabout the best framework to make use of for use/compatibility with 
screen readers/MSAA,
and, while have in past primarily used the LBC (layoub by code) wxPython 
wrapper module to quickly
generate simple/small UI's, I am now trying to get going using wxPython
properly/itself.

If I may ask, what do you use to edit your python code, etc.?  I use
edSharp, which is a sort of blind programmers text editor, created by Jamal
Masry - if tht name means much to you.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sean Murphy" <mhysnm1964 at gmail.com>
To: "Tim Roberts" <timr at probo.com>
Cc: <python-win32 at python.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 08:52 AM
Subject: Re: [python-win32] Win32 GUI for beginners.


> All,
>
> thanks for the information. I will look into it. In relation to Tim's 
> comment. The reason why I want to stick to Win32 API's is because I am 
> blind. The screen reader which allows me to use the computer does not work 
> with Xwindow style widgets.  They have to be native Windows style objects.
>
> That is the challenge I have in front of me in finding a GUI library that 
> works with my screen reader.
>
> I do have some knowledge of Event driven, OOPS programming. But it is very 
> basic and normally I use other peoples codes. :-)
>
> I am in the middle of writing a Telnet app to send a huge config to my 
> router which is one of my learning steps. :-)
>
> Sean
> On 01/01/2014, at 7:06 AM, Tim Roberts <timr at probo.com> wrote:
>
>> Sean Murphy wrote:
>>> I am very very new to Python. I have read the book on programming for 
>>> Windows with Python that was released in 2000. The book is very good but 
>>> doesn't give me the basic information I am seeking. Since I am a 
>>> beginner programmer.
>>
>> I want to caution you that you have an awful lot of fundamental concepts
>> to get down before you're ready to tackle something like this.  You have
>> to learn the Python language, which means learning the concepts of
>> class-based and object-oriented programming.  After getting
>> straight-line programming, you'll have to learn the concepts of
>> event-driven programming, which is the paradigm used by all of the
>> modern GUIs.  Then, you'll need to learn the idiosyncracies of whatever
>> GUI library you choose, all of which make compromises to mate with the
>> variations in the operating systems they support.
>>
>>
>>> I want to create a GUI windows app with Python. The program has to use 
>>> default Windows 32 or 64 bit objects.
>>
>> I'm curious to know what you meant by that.  Do you simply mean you
>> don't want to buy any components?  Because essentially all of the major
>> Python GUI toolkits have their own library of components that are vastly
>> simpler to use than the SDK components.
>>
>> If you REALLY just want to write an MFC program in Python, it's possible
>> to do that using pywin32, but it's not really very Python-like.
>>
>> -- 
>> Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
>> Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.
>>
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