[python-uk] python-uk Digest, Vol 98, Issue 7
Dave C
realtimethrill at gmail.com
Thu Oct 13 23:23:00 CEST 2011
Hi
I'd most definately attend, sounds great.
Cheers
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> 1. Dojo / workshop on "TDD Django with Selenium" - any interest?
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> 2. Re: Dojo / workshop on "TDD Django with Selenium" - any
> interest? (Andy Robinson)
> 3. Re: Dojo / workshop on "TDD Django with Selenium" - any
> interest? (Bruce Durling)
> 4. Re: Dojo / workshop on "TDD Django with Selenium" - any
> interest? (Harry Percival)
> 5. Re: Dojo / workshop on "TDD Django with Selenium" - any
> interest? (Cal Paterson)
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> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:26:23 +0100
> From: Harry Percival <harry.percival at gmail.com>
> To: UK Python Users <python-uk at python.org>
> Subject: [python-uk] Dojo / workshop on "TDD Django with Selenium" -
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> Hi-ho python peeps,
>
> Would anyone be interested in a dojo / worksop on the topic of test-driven
> Django development, with Selenium?
>
> I've been working on a tutorial on the topic (<
> https://github.com/hjwp/Test-Driven-Django-Tutorial> *) . I'm not claiming
> to be a massive expert, but it's what I've learned at work over the last
> year or so, so it's fresh in my mind... I'm pretty sure I could get a
> couple
> of (ex?) colleagues to help present...
>
> Would be aimed at beginners / people who don't know Selenium / people who
> want to learn Django the "right" way / people who want to learn TDD... If
> you already know Django and Selenium back to front, it would probably be of
> less interest, although there may be some interesting discussions around
> integrating the Django test runner, WebDriver vs Selenium-RC etc...
>
> So, trying to get an idea of numbers - would anyone be interested? London
> area, venue suggestions also gratefully accepted...
>
> HP
>
> * work in progress! for example, the .jar file really isn't necessary...
>
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> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:36:18 +0100
> From: Andy Robinson <andy at reportlab.com>
> To: hjwp2 at cantab.net, UK Python Users <python-uk at python.org>
> Subject: Re: [python-uk] Dojo / workshop on "TDD Django with Selenium"
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> On 13 October 2011 17:26, Harry Percival <harry.percival at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi-ho python peeps,
> >
> > Would anyone be interested in a dojo / worksop on the topic of
> test-driven
> > Django development, with Selenium?
> >
> > So, trying to get an idea of numbers - would anyone be interested??
> London
> > area, venue suggestions also gratefully accepted...
>
>
> This could be highly relevant for us and of my clients. Possibly 5
> people from us if the timing is right.
>
> Regrettably we don't have physical space for it right now (and are way
> outside the centre of London)
>
>
>
> --
> Andy Robinson
> ReportLab
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:37:43 +0100
> From: Bruce Durling <bld at otfrom.com>
> To: hjwp2 at cantab.net, UK Python Users <python-uk at python.org>
> Subject: Re: [python-uk] Dojo / workshop on "TDD Django with Selenium"
> - any interest?
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> Harry,
>
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 17:26, Harry Percival <harry.percival at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi-ho python peeps,
> >
> > Would anyone be interested in a dojo / worksop on the topic of
> test-driven
> > Django development, with Selenium?
>
> That sounds like a great idea.
>
> > So, trying to get an idea of numbers - would anyone be interested??
> London
> > area, venue suggestions also gratefully accepted...
>
> I think you'd get very good turnout for this (I'd be interested for a
> start). How long did you think it would last (1-2hrs or longer)? Will
> it be free or will you charge?
>
> There are a number of venues in London that could host depending on
> numbers and what you have planned.
>
> cheers,
> Bruce
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:11:37 +0100
> From: Harry Percival <harry.percival at gmail.com>
> To: Bruce Durling <bld at otfrom.com>, Andy Robinson <andy at reportlab.com>
> Cc: UK Python Users <python-uk at python.org>
> Subject: Re: [python-uk] Dojo / workshop on "TDD Django with Selenium"
> - any interest?
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>
> Hey Andy, Bruce,
>
> Wow, charging for it, hadn't even thought of that! No, I think I'd be very
> happy to do it for free... Maybe when I get a bit more bored of it all
> I'll
> demand some compensation ;-)
>
> In terms of timing, I'm really not sure yet. My objective would be to try
> and track the django tutorial, which involves the admin site, 3 simple
> views
> and a couple of forms... I'll have to think through how it would all
> work... if it was a workshop, maybe I'd have a repo with some pre-prepared
> branches everyone can pull from, and work through together as we add bits
> of
> code, before moving onto the next one...
>
> How much time do you guys think people could stand? We'd need a proper
> break if it was any longer than 1.5 hours... And any longer than 3 hours
> would probably be too much...
>
> testing topics I'd want to cover:
> - an automated FT runner
> - keep production and test data separate
> - selenium API: find_elements_by_id, find_element_by_css_selector, etc etc
> - unit tests and the django test runner
> - the django (unit) test client
> - mocking
> - why test, anyway? and what to test?
>
> django topics I'd want to cover:
> - manage.py commands: startproject, startapp, syncdb, runserver, loaddata
> - the admin site
> - models
> - views
> - templates
> - forms
>
> nice-to-haves:
> - javascript
> - transactions
> - south
>
> lots for me to think about! Do you guys think anything is missing?
>
>
> hp
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Bruce Durling <bld at otfrom.com> wrote:
>
> > Harry,
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 17:26, Harry Percival <harry.percival at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi-ho python peeps,
> > >
> > > Would anyone be interested in a dojo / worksop on the topic of
> > test-driven
> > > Django development, with Selenium?
> >
> > That sounds like a great idea.
> >
> > > So, trying to get an idea of numbers - would anyone be interested?
> > London
> > > area, venue suggestions also gratefully accepted...
> >
> > I think you'd get very good turnout for this (I'd be interested for a
> > start). How long did you think it would last (1-2hrs or longer)? Will
> > it be free or will you charge?
> >
> > There are a number of venues in London that could host depending on
> > numbers and what you have planned.
> >
> > cheers,
> > Bruce
> >
>
>
>
> --
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> Harry J.W. Percival
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> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:17:10 +0100
> From: Cal Paterson <cal at rangespan.com>
> To: hjwp2 at cantab.net, UK Python Users <python-uk at python.org>
> Cc: Andy Robinson <andy at reportlab.com>
> Subject: Re: [python-uk] Dojo / workshop on "TDD Django with Selenium"
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> Hey Harry,
>
> I'm also interested in this, depending on where you decide to run it :)
>
> Cal
>
> On 13 October 2011 18:11, Harry Percival <harry.percival at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hey Andy, Bruce,
> >
> > Wow, charging for it, hadn't even thought of that!? No, I think I'd be
> very
> > happy to do it for free...? Maybe when I get a bit more bored of it all
> I'll
> > demand some compensation ;-)
> >
> > In terms of timing, I'm really not sure yet. My objective would be to try
> > and track the django tutorial, which involves the admin site, 3 simple
> views
> > and a couple of forms...? I'll have to think through how it would all
> > work...? if it was a workshop, maybe I'd have a repo with some
> pre-prepared
> > branches everyone can pull from, and work through together as we add bits
> of
> > code, before moving onto the next one...
> >
> > How much time do you guys think people could stand?? We'd need a proper
> > break if it was any longer than 1.5 hours... And any longer than 3 hours
> > would probably be too much...
> >
> > testing topics I'd want to cover:
> > - an automated FT runner
> > - keep production and test data separate
> > - selenium API:? find_elements_by_id, find_element_by_css_selector, etc
> etc
> > - unit tests and the django test runner
> > - the django (unit) test client
> > - mocking
> > - why test, anyway? and what to test?
> >
> > django topics I'd want to cover:
> > - manage.py commands: startproject, startapp, syncdb, runserver, loaddata
> > - the admin site
> > - models
> > - views
> > - templates
> > - forms
> >
> > nice-to-haves:
> > - javascript
> > - transactions
> > - south
> >
> > lots for me to think about!? Do you guys think anything is missing?
> >
> >
> > hp
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Bruce Durling <bld at otfrom.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Harry,
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 17:26, Harry Percival <harry.percival at gmail.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hi-ho python peeps,
> >> >
> >> > Would anyone be interested in a dojo / worksop on the topic of
> >> > test-driven
> >> > Django development, with Selenium?
> >>
> >> That sounds like a great idea.
> >>
> >> > So, trying to get an idea of numbers - would anyone be interested?
> >> > London
> >> > area, venue suggestions also gratefully accepted...
> >>
> >> I think you'd get very good turnout for this (I'd be interested for a
> >> start). How long did you think it would last (1-2hrs or longer)? Will
> >> it be free or will you charge?
> >>
> >> There are a number of venues in London that could host depending on
> >> numbers and what you have planned.
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >> Bruce
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ------------------------------
> > Harry J.W. Percival
> > ------------------------------
> > Mobile:? +44 (0) 78877 02511
> > Skype:? ? ? ?? harry.percival
> >
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