From me at christhetechie.org.uk Tue Mar 6 13:31:23 2007 From: me at christhetechie.org.uk (me at christhetechie.org.uk) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 12:31:23 -00 Subject: [python-uk] Personal selection of Python books for sale to UK developers Message-ID: <8e2d43ab8c7e4583adfeec61ac43e1a5.me@christhetechie.org.uk> Hi, I've moved to ebooks (as I'm laptop driven these days) and am selling some well known and useful Python books to those who prefer paper! These are for UK people only as I'm not interested in shifting them worldwide - too much hassle. I also don't want to use Amazon or eBay as they're rubbish and I like my books to go to a good home where they'll get worn out rather than get dusty. As follows (great books these!): * O'Reilly - Programming Python - 3rd ed 2006 * O'Reilly - Python Cookbook - 2nd ed 2005 * Manning - wxPython in Action - 1st ed 2006 And some non-python goodness - possibly of use. * Wrox - Beginning MacOS X programming (Tiger OSX1.4) - 1st ed 2005 * PH - Operating Systems Design and Implementation - Minix 3! - 3rd ed 2006 * O'Reilly - C in a Nutshell - 1st ed 2005 (2006 reprint) * Morgan Kauffman - 3D game engine design - 1st ed 2001 Condition of all books is excellent - I look after them well! I'll accept SENSIBLE offers for all of these as they cost me a small fortune and will charge postage at Royal Mail's standard first cost. Please drop me an email if anyone is interested in any titles. Cheers, Chris Smith http://www.christhetechie.org.uk/ From dave.lists at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 13:57:33 2007 From: dave.lists at gmail.com (Dave Lists) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 12:57:33 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Personal selection of Python books for sale to UK developers In-Reply-To: <8e2d43ab8c7e4583adfeec61ac43e1a5.me@christhetechie.org.uk> References: <8e2d43ab8c7e4583adfeec61ac43e1a5.me@christhetechie.org.uk> Message-ID: <45ED653D.9090400@gmail.com> Not poking fun. Your website is down with the following "Directory listing is denied" Can you give us what you think is a reasonable price? Thanks, Dave. me at christhetechie.org.uk wrote: > Hi, > > I've moved to ebooks (as I'm laptop driven these days) and am selling some well known and useful Python > books to those who prefer paper! These are for UK people only as I'm not interested in shifting them > worldwide - too much hassle. I also don't want to use Amazon or eBay as they're rubbish and I like my > books to go to a good home where they'll get worn out rather than get dusty. > > As follows (great books these!): > > * O'Reilly - Programming Python - 3rd ed 2006 > * O'Reilly - Python Cookbook - 2nd ed 2005 > * Manning - wxPython in Action - 1st ed 2006 > > And some non-python goodness - possibly of use. > > * Wrox - Beginning MacOS X programming (Tiger OSX1.4) - 1st ed 2005 > * PH - Operating Systems Design and Implementation - Minix 3! - 3rd ed 2006 > * O'Reilly - C in a Nutshell - 1st ed 2005 (2006 reprint) > * Morgan Kauffman - 3D game engine design - 1st ed 2001 > > Condition of all books is excellent - I look after them well! I'll accept SENSIBLE offers for all of > these as they cost me a small fortune and will charge postage at Royal Mail's standard first cost. > Please drop me an email if anyone is interested in any titles. > > Cheers, > > Chris Smith > http://www.christhetechie.org.uk/ > > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > From theology at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 14:48:31 2007 From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth Green) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 13:48:31 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Personal selection of Python books for sale to UK developers In-Reply-To: <45ED653D.9090400@gmail.com> References: <8e2d43ab8c7e4583adfeec61ac43e1a5.me@christhetechie.org.uk> <45ED653D.9090400@gmail.com> Message-ID: This website? http://pywm.eu/pug/ How about ?15 for the three python ones? Sorry I cannot offer more without knowing what the postage is likely to be. On 06/03/07, Dave Lists wrote: > Not poking fun. Your website is down with the following "Directory > listing is denied" > Can you give us what you think is a reasonable price? > > Thanks, > Dave. > > > me at christhetechie.org.uk wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've moved to ebooks (as I'm laptop driven these days) and am selling some well known and useful Python > > books to those who prefer paper! These are for UK people only as I'm not interested in shifting them > > worldwide - too much hassle. I also don't want to use Amazon or eBay as they're rubbish and I like my > > books to go to a good home where they'll get worn out rather than get dusty. > > > > As follows (great books these!): > > > > * O'Reilly - Programming Python - 3rd ed 2006 > > * O'Reilly - Python Cookbook - 2nd ed 2005 > > * Manning - wxPython in Action - 1st ed 2006 > > > > And some non-python goodness - possibly of use. > > > > * Wrox - Beginning MacOS X programming (Tiger OSX1.4) - 1st ed 2005 > > * PH - Operating Systems Design and Implementation - Minix 3! - 3rd ed 2006 > > * O'Reilly - C in a Nutshell - 1st ed 2005 (2006 reprint) > > * Morgan Kauffman - 3D game engine design - 1st ed 2001 > > > > Condition of all books is excellent - I look after them well! I'll accept SENSIBLE offers for all of > > these as they cost me a small fortune and will charge postage at Royal Mail's standard first cost. > > Please drop me an email if anyone is interested in any titles. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Chris Smith > > http://www.christhetechie.org.uk/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > python-uk mailing list > > python-uk at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > From dave.lists at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 15:17:27 2007 From: dave.lists at gmail.com (Dave Lists) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 14:17:27 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Personal selection of Python books for sale to UK developers In-Reply-To: References: <8e2d43ab8c7e4583adfeec61ac43e1a5.me@christhetechie.org.uk> <45ED653D.9090400@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45ED77F7.7030106@gmail.com> No http://www.christhetechie.org.uk/ that website. Zeth Green wrote: > This website? http://pywm.eu/pug/ > > How about ?15 for the three python ones? Sorry I cannot offer more > without knowing what the postage is likely to be. > > On 06/03/07, Dave Lists wrote: >> Not poking fun. Your website is down with the following "Directory >> listing is denied" >> Can you give us what you think is a reasonable price? >> >> Thanks, >> Dave. >> >> >> me at christhetechie.org.uk wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I've moved to ebooks (as I'm laptop driven these days) and am selling some well known and useful Python >>> books to those who prefer paper! These are for UK people only as I'm not interested in shifting them >>> worldwide - too much hassle. I also don't want to use Amazon or eBay as they're rubbish and I like my >>> books to go to a good home where they'll get worn out rather than get dusty. >>> >>> As follows (great books these!): >>> >>> * O'Reilly - Programming Python - 3rd ed 2006 >>> * O'Reilly - Python Cookbook - 2nd ed 2005 >>> * Manning - wxPython in Action - 1st ed 2006 >>> >>> And some non-python goodness - possibly of use. >>> >>> * Wrox - Beginning MacOS X programming (Tiger OSX1.4) - 1st ed 2005 >>> * PH - Operating Systems Design and Implementation - Minix 3! - 3rd ed 2006 >>> * O'Reilly - C in a Nutshell - 1st ed 2005 (2006 reprint) >>> * Morgan Kauffman - 3D game engine design - 1st ed 2001 >>> >>> Condition of all books is excellent - I look after them well! I'll accept SENSIBLE offers for all of >>> these as they cost me a small fortune and will charge postage at Royal Mail's standard first cost. >>> Please drop me an email if anyone is interested in any titles. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Chris Smith >>> http://www.christhetechie.org.uk/ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> python-uk mailing list >>> python-uk at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> python-uk mailing list >> python-uk at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk >> > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > From me at christhetechie.org.uk Tue Mar 6 15:17:15 2007 From: me at christhetechie.org.uk (me at christhetechie.org.uk) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 14:17:15 -00 Subject: [python-uk] Personal selection of Python books for sale to UKdevelopers Message-ID: Hi, > Not poking fun. Your website is down with the following "Directory > listing is denied" Yeah I know - the perpetually unfinished web site is still unfinished. There's lots of content there but it's hidden. > Can you give us what you think is a reasonable price? I'd expect at least ?15 quid each for the Python ones (considering they cost around 40 quid each to start with). 10-15 quid for the others. They are all pretty new current edition ones! Postage will be around the ?4-6 per book as they're heavy as anything. I live in North London so if anyone wants to collect that's fine plus I work in the city so if anyone wants to meet up I can shift them that way. Cheers, Chris Smith http://www.christhetechie.org.uk/ From theology at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 18:52:29 2007 From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth Green) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 17:52:29 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Personal selection of Python books for sale to UK developers In-Reply-To: <45ED77F7.7030106@gmail.com> References: <8e2d43ab8c7e4583adfeec61ac43e1a5.me@christhetechie.org.uk> <45ED653D.9090400@gmail.com> <45ED77F7.7030106@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 06/03/07, Dave Lists wrote: > No http://www.christhetechie.org.uk/ that website. Well I see the problem, it says: "Internet Information Services (IIS)" That is normally a fatal error ;) From me at christhetechie.org.uk Tue Mar 6 19:49:26 2007 From: me at christhetechie.org.uk (me at christhetechie.org.uk) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 18:49:26 -00 Subject: [python-uk] Personal selection of Python books for sale to UKdevelopers Message-ID: Evening, > On 06/03/07, Dave Lists wrote: > > No http://www.christhetechie.org.uk/ that website. > > Well I see the problem, it says: > > "Internet Information Services (IIS)" > > That is normally a fatal error ;) Nazis. Hitler etc etc. Godwins law invoked now that's enough ;-) Cheers, Chris Smith http://www.christhetechie.org.uk/ From pdr at pdr.cx Wed Mar 7 11:13:34 2007 From: pdr at pdr.cx (Pete Ryland) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 10:13:34 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Personal selection of Python books for sale to UKdevelopers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 18:49:26 -00, me at christhetechie.org.uk wrote: > Evening, > > > On 06/03/07, Dave Lists wrote: > > > No http://www.christhetechie.org.uk/ that website. > > > > Well I see the problem, it says: > > > > "Internet Information Services (IIS)" > > > > That is normally a fatal error ;) > > Nazis. Hitler etc etc. Godwins law invoked now that's enough ;-) Well, I'm afraid I didn't see any comparison being made, a necessary part of Godwin's Law. In fact, even if you had done, you would have only invoked Quirk's Exception. And besides, there wasn't much of a debate going on in any case. All the best, Pete From andy at reportlab.com Thu Mar 15 00:38:37 2007 From: andy at reportlab.com (Andy Robinson) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:38:37 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python evening talks in London Message-ID: <45F8877D.2030003@reportlab.com> Hi all, Yet another London-centric suggestion. Apologies to the rest of the country. I've been talking to a friend who is discovering the joys of Python, and is a committee member of the Institute of Engineering and Technology (www.theiet.org) He believes we could get rooms in their place, which is next to the Savoy, to hold evening talks followed by networking over a drink or two. They have a distinguished location with rooms for anything from 20 up to 200 and he believes it could cost little or nothing to the visitors. The general idea would be a talk on some Python-related subjects, libraries or frameworks, about once a month, which can reach a wider network of developers than usually turn up for the pub sessions. People would be encouraged to bring laptops (Wifi available) and try out whatever's being talked about, so if they discovered a few useful libraries for a task, they could put them to work next day; and experience Pythonistas could advise newbies. A proposal is needed to their committee by end of this month. So, - who'd find something like this useful? - who'd like to give talks, and on what? - who'd like to hear talks, and on what? - who'd bring colleagues along? - any thoughts on format, target audience and so on.... I understand the start would be a few months off. Best Regards, -- Andy Robinson CEO/Chief Architect ReportLab Europe Ltd. 165 the Broadway, Wimbledon, London SW19 1NE, UK tel +44-20-8544-8049 mobile +44-7725-056175 From fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk Thu Mar 15 00:52:18 2007 From: fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:52:18 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python evening talks in London In-Reply-To: <45F8877D.2030003@reportlab.com> References: <45F8877D.2030003@reportlab.com> Message-ID: <45F88AB2.1060306@voidspace.org.uk> Andy Robinson wrote: > Hi all, > > Yet another London-centric suggestion. Apologies to the rest of the > country. > Sounds great Andy. I'm tied up for a few months, but after that will be much freer to take part in this sort of thing. I'd love to attend. Suggestions for talk subjects : * web frameworks (naturally!) * popular standard library and extension modules * setuptools and eggs * IPython (the alternative interactive interpreter) * GUI framework comparison * Jython * Testing tools * Project management with Trac * Developing with RPython (Restricted Python from PyPy - already used in production systems by companies like EWT) I'd be happy to talk about IronPython sometime. Possibly also a few other subjects I have in mind for further down the road (using rest2web, GUI acceptance tests with unittest, agile development and TDD etc). There are lots of banks, hedge funds and other companies that now develop with Python. It would be nice to find a way of reaching them (and finding out what they would like to learn about). Perhaps spamming all the London companies that advertise on the Python job board ? Format - talk and demo followed by questions works well for many subjects. How about sprinting style as well ? All the best, Michael Foord http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/index.shtml From pdr at pdr.cx Thu Mar 15 01:39:49 2007 From: pdr at pdr.cx (Pete Ryland) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:39:49 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python evening talks in London In-Reply-To: <45F88AB2.1060306@voidspace.org.uk> References: <45F8877D.2030003@reportlab.com> <45F88AB2.1060306@voidspace.org.uk> Message-ID: On 14/03/07, Michael Foord wrote: > Andy Robinson wrote: > > Yet another London-centric suggestion. Apologies to the rest of the > > country. > > > Sounds great Andy. > > I'm tied up for a few months, but after that will be much freer to take > part in this sort of thing. I'd love to attend. That sounds like a fantastic idea. I recently gave a talk at LCA in Sydney about a python high-level gui toolkit prototype I'm working on, which I'd be happy to present here as well. It looks like I'll be giving the talk at GLLUG soon too. I'd be happy to help with organisation of meetings too if needed. Pete From mike.pentney at peters-research.com Thu Mar 15 01:28:33 2007 From: mike.pentney at peters-research.com (Mike Pentney) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:28:33 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python evening talks in London In-Reply-To: <45F8877D.2030003@reportlab.com> References: <45F8877D.2030003@reportlab.com> Message-ID: <45F89331.4090601@peters-research.com> Hi, Andy. I've been using Python off and on for about 18 months or so. I'd be very interested in attending. I don't (unfortunately) have any cutting edge applications to talk about yet, but I'm always interested in learning what other people are doing. My particular interests would be GUI frameworks, Python 3000, applications of Python (especially engineering, scientific and financial), and web frameworks. Plus of course it is always good to meet other Python users. If the IET venue doesn't work out for any reason, the Institute of Physics also have good facilities at 76 Portland Place. Probably not free, but not too expensive either. Regards, Mike Pentney Andy Robinson wrote: > Hi all, > > Yet another London-centric suggestion. Apologies to the rest of the > country. > > I've been talking to a friend who is discovering the joys of Python, and > is a committee member of the Institute of Engineering and Technology > (www.theiet.org) He believes we could get rooms in their place, which > is next to the Savoy, to hold evening talks followed by networking over > a drink or two. They have a distinguished location with rooms for > anything from 20 up to 200 and he believes it could cost little or > nothing to the visitors. > > The general idea would be a talk on some Python-related subjects, > libraries or frameworks, about once a month, which can reach a wider > network of developers than usually turn up for the pub sessions. People > would be encouraged to bring laptops (Wifi available) and try out > whatever's being talked about, so if they discovered a few useful > libraries for a task, they could put them to work next day; and > experience Pythonistas could advise newbies. > > A proposal is needed to their committee by end of this month. So, > - who'd find something like this useful? > - who'd like to give talks, and on what? > - who'd like to hear talks, and on what? > - who'd bring colleagues along? > - any thoughts on format, target audience and so on.... > > I understand the start would be a few months off. > > > Best Regards, > > From andy at reportlab.com Thu Mar 15 10:51:41 2007 From: andy at reportlab.com (Andy Robinson) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:51:41 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python evening talks in London In-Reply-To: <45F88AB2.1060306@voidspace.org.uk> References: <45F8877D.2030003@reportlab.com> <45F88AB2.1060306@voidspace.org.uk> Message-ID: <45F9172D.1070406@reportlab.com> Michael Foord wrote: > There are lots of banks, hedge funds and other companies that now > develop with Python. It would be nice to find a way of reaching them > (and finding out what they would like to learn about). Perhaps spamming > all the London companies that advertise on the Python job board ? That's definitely one of the target audiences. I have a talk in mind to do with general "numeric plumbing" - getting numbers in and out of Excel, from web services and so on - which I think would be appealing to this sector. I cooked up this idea with Thoughtworks last April because they actually consult for a lot of these firms, and was hoping to do an initial one last summer but it never came off. They are plugged into a lot of these places. I'm pretty sure those on this list could tell half a dozen banks. - Andy From mail at timgolden.me.uk Thu Mar 15 11:07:25 2007 From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:07:25 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python evening talks in London In-Reply-To: <45F8877D.2030003@reportlab.com> References: <45F8877D.2030003@reportlab.com> Message-ID: <45F91ADD.7010609@timgolden.me.uk> Andy Robinson wrote: > I've been talking to a friend who is discovering the joys of Python, and > is a committee member of the Institute of Engineering and Technology > (www.theiet.org) He believes we could get rooms in their place, which > is next to the Savoy, to hold evening talks followed by networking over > a drink or two. They have a distinguished location with rooms for > anything from 20 up to 200 and he believes it could cost little or > nothing to the visitors. > > The general idea would be a talk on some Python-related subjects, > libraries or frameworks, about once a month, which can reach a wider > network of developers than usually turn up for the pub sessions. People > would be encouraged to bring laptops (Wifi available) and try out > whatever's being talked about, so if they discovered a few useful > libraries for a task, they could put them to work next day; and > experience Pythonistas could advise newbies. > > A proposal is needed to their committee by end of this month. So, > - who'd find something like this useful? > - who'd like to give talks, and on what? > - who'd like to hear talks, and on what? > - who'd bring colleagues along? > - any thoughts on format, target audience and so on.... I think it's a great idea. My personal offering is of the Python-useful-even-under-Windows variety, especially WMI I suppose, and to some extent Python-useful-for-database-stuff variety. (My bread-and-butter work is SQL analysis & development). I'd listen to any talks which were going and I'd certainly try to get my colleagues along. If I think of any good ideas for format etc. I'll post them up. TJG From fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk Thu Mar 15 11:40:21 2007 From: fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:40:21 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python evening talks in London In-Reply-To: <45F89331.4090601@peters-research.com> References: <45F8877D.2030003@reportlab.com> <45F89331.4090601@peters-research.com> Message-ID: <45F92295.4010803@voidspace.org.uk> Mike Pentney wrote: > Hi, Andy. > > I've been using Python off and on for about 18 months or so. > I'd be very interested in attending. I don't (unfortunately) > have any cutting edge applications to talk about yet, but I'm > always interested in learning what other people are doing. > My particular interests would be GUI frameworks, Python 3000, > applications of Python (especially engineering, scientific > and financial), and web frameworks. Plus of course it is > always good to meet other Python users. > > If the IET venue doesn't work out for any reason, the Institute > of Physics also have good facilities at 76 Portland Place. Probably > not free, but not too expensive either. > From a socialising point of view, the Python meetups that Simon Brunning organises are fantastic. :-) Michael Foord http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/index.shtml > Regards, > > Mike Pentney > > Andy Robinson wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Yet another London-centric suggestion. Apologies to the rest of the >> country. >> >> I've been talking to a friend who is discovering the joys of Python, and >> is a committee member of the Institute of Engineering and Technology >> (www.theiet.org) He believes we could get rooms in their place, which >> is next to the Savoy, to hold evening talks followed by networking over >> a drink or two. They have a distinguished location with rooms for >> anything from 20 up to 200 and he believes it could cost little or >> nothing to the visitors. >> >> The general idea would be a talk on some Python-related subjects, >> libraries or frameworks, about once a month, which can reach a wider >> network of developers than usually turn up for the pub sessions. People >> would be encouraged to bring laptops (Wifi available) and try out >> whatever's being talked about, so if they discovered a few useful >> libraries for a task, they could put them to work next day; and >> experience Pythonistas could advise newbies. >> >> A proposal is needed to their committee by end of this month. So, >> - who'd find something like this useful? >> - who'd like to give talks, and on what? >> - who'd like to hear talks, and on what? >> - who'd bring colleagues along? >> - any thoughts on format, target audience and so on.... >> >> I understand the start would be a few months off. >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > From mail at timgolden.me.uk Thu Mar 15 11:47:31 2007 From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:47:31 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python evening talks in London In-Reply-To: <45F92295.4010803@voidspace.org.uk> References: <45F8877D.2030003@reportlab.com> <45F89331.4090601@peters-research.com> <45F92295.4010803@voidspace.org.uk> Message-ID: <45F92443.30909@timgolden.me.uk> Michael Foord wrote: > Mike Pentney wrote: >> Hi, Andy. >> >> I've been using Python off and on for about 18 months or so. >> I'd be very interested in attending. I don't (unfortunately) >> have any cutting edge applications to talk about yet, but I'm >> always interested in learning what other people are doing. >> My particular interests would be GUI frameworks, Python 3000, >> applications of Python (especially engineering, scientific >> and financial), and web frameworks. Plus of course it is >> always good to meet other Python users. >> >> If the IET venue doesn't work out for any reason, the Institute >> of Physics also have good facilities at 76 Portland Place. Probably >> not free, but not too expensive either. >> > From a socialising point of view, the Python meetups that Simon > Brunning organises are fantastic. :-) Very true, but if these talks take off I see them as a slightly different format / style which may well suit some people better. (And we can always go along to the pub afterwards!) TJG From fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk Thu Mar 15 12:02:17 2007 From: fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:02:17 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python evening talks in London In-Reply-To: <45F92443.30909@timgolden.me.uk> References: <45F8877D.2030003@reportlab.com> <45F89331.4090601@peters-research.com> <45F92295.4010803@voidspace.org.uk> <45F92443.30909@timgolden.me.uk> Message-ID: <45F927B9.9020007@voidspace.org.uk> Tim Golden wrote: > Michael Foord wrote: > >> Mike Pentney wrote: >> >>> Hi, Andy. >>> >>> I've been using Python off and on for about 18 months or so. >>> I'd be very interested in attending. I don't (unfortunately) >>> have any cutting edge applications to talk about yet, but I'm >>> always interested in learning what other people are doing. >>> My particular interests would be GUI frameworks, Python 3000, >>> applications of Python (especially engineering, scientific >>> and financial), and web frameworks. Plus of course it is >>> always good to meet other Python users. >>> >>> If the IET venue doesn't work out for any reason, the Institute >>> of Physics also have good facilities at 76 Portland Place. Probably >>> not free, but not too expensive either. >>> >>> >> From a socialising point of view, the Python meetups that Simon >> Brunning organises are fantastic. :-) >> > > Very true, but if these talks take off I see them as a slightly > different format / style which may well suit some people better. > (And we can always go along to the pub afterwards!) > Yep. :-) The Python meetups are great socially, but not so good for team coding or demos. 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Registered Office: Greener House, 66-68 Haymarket, London, SW1Y 4RF ? ************************************************************ From pdr at pdr.cx Thu Mar 15 14:40:59 2007 From: pdr at pdr.cx (Pete Ryland) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:40:59 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python evening talks in London In-Reply-To: <45F9172D.1070406@reportlab.com> References: <45F8877D.2030003@reportlab.com> <45F88AB2.1060306@voidspace.org.uk> <45F9172D.1070406@reportlab.com> Message-ID: On 15/03/07, Andy Robinson wrote: > That's definitely one of the target audiences. I have a talk in mind to > do with general "numeric plumbing" - getting numbers in and out of > Excel, from web services and so on - which I think would be appealing to > this sector. > > I cooked up this idea with Thoughtworks last April because they actually > consult for a lot of these firms, and was hoping to do an initial one > last summer but it never came off. They are plugged into a lot of these > places. I'm pretty sure those on this list could tell half a dozen banks. Definitely. I'm in that sector, and I use pyExcelerator daily. Pete From simon at brunningonline.net Thu Mar 15 14:50:02 2007 From: simon at brunningonline.net (Simon Brunning) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:50:02 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python evening talks in London In-Reply-To: <45F9172D.1070406@reportlab.com> References: <45F8877D.2030003@reportlab.com> <45F88AB2.1060306@voidspace.org.uk> <45F9172D.1070406@reportlab.com> Message-ID: <8c7f10c60703150650jac5d731s476267013484f930@mail.gmail.com> On 3/15/07, Andy Robinson wrote: > > I cooked up this idea with Thoughtworks last April because they actually > consult for a lot of these firms, and was hoping to do an initial one > last summer but it never came off. They are plugged into a lot of these > places. I'm pretty sure those on this list could tell half a dozen banks. I start there on Monday, so I'll see if I can make something happen. ;-) -- Cheers, Simon B simon at brunningonline.net http://www.brunningonline.net/simon/blog/ GTalk: simon.brunning MSN: small_values From simon at brunningonline.net Thu Mar 15 14:53:59 2007 From: simon at brunningonline.net (Simon Brunning) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:53:59 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python evening talks in London In-Reply-To: <45F92295.4010803@voidspace.org.uk> References: <45F8877D.2030003@reportlab.com> <45F89331.4090601@peters-research.com> <45F92295.4010803@voidspace.org.uk> Message-ID: <8c7f10c60703150653k1556b42boec7f1d13df7b5b69@mail.gmail.com> On 3/15/07, Michael Foord wrote: > From a socialising point of view, the Python meetups that Simon > Brunning organises are fantastic. :-) Thanks, I'm glad you think so! But as has been said elsewhere, there's a desire for something a bit more formal, a bit more demo-friendly, from time to time. I'm starting at ThoughtWorks on Monday, and they allow use of their facilities for this sort of thing, free of charge. They even throw in beer and pizza from time to time! No promises, but once I have my feet under the table, I'll see what I can arrange. -- Cheers, Simon B simon at brunningonline.net http://www.brunningonline.net/simon/blog/ GTalk: simon.brunning MSN: small_values From andy at reportlab.com Thu Mar 15 14:57:05 2007 From: andy at reportlab.com (Andy Robinson) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:57:05 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python evening talks in London In-Reply-To: <8c7f10c60703150650jac5d731s476267013484f930@mail.gmail.com> References: <45F8877D.2030003@reportlab.com> <45F88AB2.1060306@voidspace.org.uk> <45F9172D.1070406@reportlab.com> <8c7f10c60703150650jac5d731s476267013484f930@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45F950B1.7030309@reportlab.com> > I start there on Monday, so I'll see if I can make something happen. ;-) I didn't want to ask, but congratulations! - Andy From mamading at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 17:16:06 2007 From: mamading at gmail.com (Mamading Ceesay) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:16:06 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python evening talks in London In-Reply-To: <8c7f10c60703150650jac5d731s476267013484f930@mail.gmail.com> References: <45F8877D.2030003@reportlab.com> <45F88AB2.1060306@voidspace.org.uk> <45F9172D.1070406@reportlab.com> <8c7f10c60703150650jac5d731s476267013484f930@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <57a935970703150916t5a30140byf0365100b244f2dc@mail.gmail.com> On 15/03/07, Simon Brunning wrote: > On 3/15/07, Andy Robinson wrote: > > > > I cooked up this idea with Thoughtworks last April because they actually > > consult for a lot of these firms, and was hoping to do an initial one > > last summer but it never came off. They are plugged into a lot of these > > places. I'm pretty sure those on this list could tell half a dozen banks. > > I start there on Monday, so I'll see if I can make something happen. ;-) > Congrats on joining Thoughtworks, (nearly) all the cool kids work there! -- Mamading Ceesay "the skill of programming is to create a context in which other people can share." --Adrian Holovaty From mgrazebrook at compuserve.com Fri Mar 16 00:53:19 2007 From: mgrazebrook at compuserve.com (Michael Grazebrook) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:53:19 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python evening talks in London In-Reply-To: <45F92443.30909@timgolden.me.uk> References: <45F8877D.2030003@reportlab.com> <45F89331.4090601@peters-research.com> <45F92295.4010803@voidspace.org.uk> <45F92443.30909@timgolden.me.uk> Message-ID: <45F9DC6F.1010303@compuserve.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-uk/attachments/20070315/32e1a84f/attachment.html From mgrazebrook at compuserve.com Fri Mar 16 01:13:07 2007 From: mgrazebrook at compuserve.com (Michael Grazebrook) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:13:07 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python evening talks in London In-Reply-To: <45F9172D.1070406@reportlab.com> References: <45F8877D.2030003@reportlab.com> <45F88AB2.1060306@voidspace.org.uk> <45F9172D.1070406@reportlab.com> Message-ID: <45F9E113.5030800@compuserve.com> Andy Robinson wrote: > > Michael Foord wrote: > >> There are lots of banks, hedge funds and other companies that now >> develop with Python. It would be nice to find a way of reaching them >> (and finding out what they would like to learn about). Perhaps spamming >> all the London companies that advertise on the Python job board ? >> The Belgian bank / hedge fund KBC are likely to be interested. They use a good deal of python, and were interested when I suggested it to them a few months ago. No idea how to put the word out more generally though. From fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk Fri Mar 16 01:30:02 2007 From: fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:30:02 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python evening talks in London In-Reply-To: <45F9DC6F.1010303@compuserve.com> References: <45F8877D.2030003@reportlab.com> <45F89331.4090601@peters-research.com> <45F92295.4010803@voidspace.org.uk> <45F92443.30909@timgolden.me.uk> <45F9DC6F.1010303@compuserve.com> Message-ID: <45F9E50A.1020506@voidspace.org.uk> Talks, tutorials, discussions and sprints all sound like interesting activities. Once a month sounds fine. How firm do proposals need to be ? When do 'we' propose starting (first event) ? How far in advance do we need to produce a definite schedule for ? How many people do we need on any 'official organisers committee' ? Would we need to have individuals to cover practical responsibilities on site ? (How many, what responsibilities) Does anyone know the answer to these questions ? ;-) I believe the PSF is considering what support to give to local user groups (in terms of materials and financial support), so that may be worth exploring if necessary. Michael Foord Michael Grazebrook wrote: > I'm an IET member and attend their lectures occasionally. It's part of > the the Institute of Engineering Technology's mission to put on the > sort of presentations and lectures we'd like. So we're helping with > their mission. If you don't know it, the IET is the engineer's > equivalent of the institute of chartered accountants or the law > society. It's the body which puts /C. Eng/ after your name. But a lot > more too. > > The venue is great, both location and facilities. The London group > puts on a free evening lecture once per month and monthly lunchtime > lecture. We would add to these, not replace them. Take a look at the > current programme (and by all means pay it a visit!): > http://www.theiet.org/events/calendar/ > Check the box for "Include events from Local Networks" > A typical evening lecture has pre-lecture food & soft drinks from > 5:30. Then about an hour of lecture. Then a glass and a bit of > networking after the event. All (usually) free. The IET is the very > essence of the 19th century learned society, a forum for techies to > get together, share ideas and do some networking. > > This would be a completely different kind of event from the pub > meet-ups. It's up to us to propose the format. It doesn't have to be > the same as what the IET already does. We could put on lectures. Or we > could put on tutorials, where everyone's asked to bring a laptop and > the material's distributed through their wireless network so we can > try it out during the tutorial. Or we could stage discussion meetings. > Or some mix of the above. The style is up to us. > > If you're giving a talk, advertising isn't allowed. By all means hand > out your business card over a glass during the networking part of the > event. And of course you have the platform because of what you're > doing in the real world, no need to hide it. The lecture notes and > codes samples which the IET customarily posts on its web site after > the talk might even include your company contact details. But don't > give a sales pitch. > > We'd probably want to have our sessions clash with some other stream > of lectures: it costs money to keep the building open during an > evening. But there's a huge capacity, so space and numbers are not a > problem. We can take over a different lecture theatre from the other > event. > > The professional networks present their budgets at the end of this > month, so we need to sketch out what we want to do quickly. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > From richardlewis at fastmail.co.uk Fri Mar 16 10:23:09 2007 From: richardlewis at fastmail.co.uk (Richard Lewis) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:23:09 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python evening talks in London In-Reply-To: <45F9E50A.1020506@voidspace.org.uk> References: <45F8877D.2030003@reportlab.com> <45F9DC6F.1010303@compuserve.com> <45F9E50A.1020506@voidspace.org.uk> Message-ID: <200703160923.09413.richardlewis@fastmail.co.uk> Hello UKPU, I've been reading this list for ages but rarely (never?) post anything. I'm a music postgraduate student at the UEA in Norwich and use Python not only for my research (which is in computer models of music representation) but I've also done odd web/database jobs for the university using Python. On Friday 16 March 2007 00:30, Michael Foord wrote: > Talks, tutorials, discussions and sprints all sound like interesting > activities. Once a month sounds fine. > I'd certainly be interested in coming along sometimes, though I'd have to be quite keen to hear something as its a two hour/20 GBP train journey to London. > How firm do proposals need to be ? > > When do 'we' propose starting (first event) ? > How far in advance do we need to produce a definite schedule for ? > How many people do we need on any 'official organisers committee' ? > Would we need to have individuals to cover practical responsibilities on > site ? (How many, what responsibilities) > > Does anyone know the answer to these questions ? ;-) > Someone could set up a sort of calendar wiki so that potential speakers can post proposed talks (demos, etc.) which can then be confirmed (or moved or rejected, etc.) by a small team of organisers/editors. This would benefit people coming from a distance as well. Cheers, Richard -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Richard Lewis http://www.richard-lewis.me.uk/ JID: ironchicken at jabber.earth.li -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From mgrazebrook at compuserve.com Sat Mar 17 18:20:09 2007 From: mgrazebrook at compuserve.com (Michael Grazebrook) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 17:20:09 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python lecture series Message-ID: <45FC2349.8090208@compuserve.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-uk/attachments/20070317/7d050dc5/attachment.html From mail at timgolden.me.uk Sat Mar 17 21:28:19 2007 From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 20:28:19 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python evening talks in London: Ten lines of code In-Reply-To: <45FC3AD3.3030901@compuserve.com> References: <45F8877D.2030003@reportlab.com> <45F91ADD.7010609@timgolden.me.uk> <45FC3AD3.3030901@compuserve.com> Message-ID: <45FC4F63.6070309@timgolden.me.uk> Michael Grazebrook wrote: > Allow me a trip into fantasy land. I'd like to play with an idea for a > lecture of broad appeal suitable for the 11th, where we addresses a > wider audience of non-Python users. What do you think? > > *Ten lines of code - Python's power* > *Lecture by* ???, Michael Grazebrook, and ??? > *Date & Time*: 11th April 2007 > *Networking and refreshments* 17:30 - 18:30. > *Lecture: *18:30 - 20:00 > *Networking and Wine reception *20:00 - 22:00 > *Cost: *Free > *Venue:* The IET, Savoy Place, London, WC2R 0BL > > Python is a superb language for the casual user. Yet it's also robust > enough to run business on. This talk is aimed at people who've never > used Python before, to show how to do simple but powerful things with > it. It's also about protecting the fish in Dad's pond. > > This talk presents five small programs, each in less than ten lines of > code, which you could easily adapt: > > * A program to grab (?the event calendar from the IET web-site? - > some web page) and put it into Excel > * Driving some hardware from a simple USB-driven bread-board > * A simple web server > * A simple Windows user interface using WMI > * Putting it together - a remote application with hardware to > protect dad's fish I think it looks great. Needs a fair bit of cooperation to make it happen, mind you! > I've never used WMI Just in case (and it's mildly ambiguous from your one-liner above): WMI is an API for monitoring and to some extent controlling your Windows-based system, *not* a user-interface-building toolset. Obviously, you might have meant above: write a user interface to some WMI stuff, but I read it as: use WMI to write a user interface. If it's the former, I'm very happy to think up some kind of way in which you can use WMI to do *something* which we can build an interface to. Don't know what, though! If you're really after an interface builder, I know from his blog that Michael Foord has done stuff with IronPython and the .NET Windows Forms stuff, so maybe he could step forward. (But I'll leave that up to him). > I'm also thinking we might use it as a networking event to see what the > interest is like and put together more meaty proposals for more > specialised themes. Would you lot turn up even though the content isn't > advanced? > My fear is that this rather trivial stuff would not attract you lot I don't think you have anything to fear on this score. Obviously, I can't speak for everyone, but my experience in person and on-line is that Pythoneers are remarkably friendly people and are very happy to show just how useful Python is for all things great and small. Speaking for myself here I'd be delighted to take part if my area of usefulness is useful, and delighted to just come along and cheer and participate and answer questions if it's not. I'll pause for a few hours after sending this (it's 8.30pm on Saturday evening now). I don't know if anyone's got back to you privately. If so, perhaps you might publish a summary of where things are at. TJG From fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk Sat Mar 17 21:38:58 2007 From: fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 20:38:58 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python evening talks in London: Ten lines of code In-Reply-To: <45FC4F63.6070309@timgolden.me.uk> References: <45F8877D.2030003@reportlab.com> <45F91ADD.7010609@timgolden.me.uk> <45FC3AD3.3030901@compuserve.com> <45FC4F63.6070309@timgolden.me.uk> Message-ID: <45FC51E2.6000309@voidspace.org.uk> Tim Golden wrote: > Michael Grazebrook wrote: > [snip..] > > > If you're really after an interface builder, I know > from his blog that Michael Foord has done stuff with > IronPython and the .NET Windows Forms stuff, so maybe > he could step forward. (But I'll leave that up to him) I'm very interested in these talks, but I'm afraid I'm stacked out for the next few months. :-( After that I'd love to help with some talks. Michael From pdr at pdr.cx Sun Mar 18 00:39:26 2007 From: pdr at pdr.cx (Pete Ryland) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 23:39:26 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python evening talks in London: Ten lines of code In-Reply-To: <45FC4F63.6070309@timgolden.me.uk> References: <45F8877D.2030003@reportlab.com> <45F91ADD.7010609@timgolden.me.uk> <45FC3AD3.3030901@compuserve.com> <45FC4F63.6070309@timgolden.me.uk> Message-ID: On 17/03/07, Tim Golden wrote: > > I've never used WMI > > Just in case (and it's mildly ambiguous from your > one-liner above): WMI is an API for monitoring and > to some extent controlling your Windows-based system, > *not* a user-interface-building toolset. Obviously, > you might have meant above: write a user interface > to some WMI stuff, but I read it as: use WMI to write > a user interface. If it's the former, I'm very happy > to think up some kind of way in which you can use > WMI to do *something* which we can build an interface > to. Don't know what, though! Funnily enough, my company's business revolves around a "discovery engine" which is entirely written in python. It uses wmi, ssh, snmp and other technologies to find and gather information from customers' server estates. We use omniORB (it's developer works for us), BerkeleyDB, and a whole host of other technologies. Perhaps I could get some of our engineers to present some talks too. I'm sure one of them can explain wmi too! Pete From mail at timgolden.me.uk Sun Mar 18 21:24:03 2007 From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 20:24:03 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python evening talks in London: Ten lines of code In-Reply-To: References: <45F8877D.2030003@reportlab.com> <45F91ADD.7010609@timgolden.me.uk> <45FC3AD3.3030901@compuserve.com> <45FC4F63.6070309@timgolden.me.uk> Message-ID: <45FD9FE3.4090903@timgolden.me.uk> Pete Ryland wrote: > Funnily enough, my company's business revolves around a "discovery > engine" which is entirely written in python. It uses wmi, ssh, snmp > and other technologies to find and gather information from customers' > server estates. We use omniORB (it's developer works for us), > BerkeleyDB, and a whole host of other technologies. Perhaps I could > get some of our engineers to present some talks too. I'm sure one of > them can explain wmi too! I think I must have met you or one of your colleagues at one of the London Python meetups some months ago, at the Bank of England place. (And, I think, had some email correspondence with someone as well). Glad to hear that WMI is getting used out there, although ironically I hardly use it myself these days! (Out of interest, do you use my module or have you rolled your own?) But this is not going to buy the baby a new hat (to coin a phrase). Michael G: has anyone come forward privately with definite offers of help? We obviously have to get this moving if we're going to fit into this cancellation. Has anyone come forward either to flesh out your spec. or to offer an alternative? TJG From mgrazebrook at compuserve.com Mon Mar 19 00:47:05 2007 From: mgrazebrook at compuserve.com (Michael Grazebrook) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:47:05 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python evening talks in London: Ten lines of code In-Reply-To: <45FD9FE3.4090903@timgolden.me.uk> References: <45F8877D.2030003@reportlab.com> <45F91ADD.7010609@timgolden.me.uk> <45FC3AD3.3030901@compuserve.com> <45FC4F63.6070309@timgolden.me.uk> <45FD9FE3.4090903@timgolden.me.uk> Message-ID: <45FDCF79.2010507@compuserve.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-uk/attachments/20070318/4072a5da/attachment.html From mail at timgolden.me.uk Mon Mar 19 09:30:18 2007 From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:30:18 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python evening talks in London: Ten lines of code In-Reply-To: <45FDCF79.2010507@compuserve.com> References: <45F8877D.2030003@reportlab.com> <45F91ADD.7010609@timgolden.me.uk> <45FC3AD3.3030901@compuserve.com> <45FC4F63.6070309@timgolden.me.uk> <45FD9FE3.4090903@timgolden.me.uk> <45FDCF79.2010507@compuserve.com> Message-ID: <45FE4A1A.6030108@timgolden.me.uk> Michael Grazebrook wrote: > @Tim > Nobody has volunteered off-line. I reckon you volunteered! Thanks. I'm going to > try to persuade Andy Robinson to do 10 minutes if I can, but he's on holiday > this week. > > The proposal I'm making is so basic (in Python terms) that if the worst came to > the worst I could do it myself, despite my inexperience. But that would rather > waste the opportunity. I'm comfortable with 3 speakers, max 5 but that's harder > to coordinate. My current contract ends on 2nd April so I'll have more > flexibility in my time to prepare. > > The concept for this first lecture is several tiny programmes. They don't have > to be those I proposed. It had crossed my mind that a potential future speaker > might present a 10 line demo and use it as a sales pitch for a later lecture or > tutorial. > > Tim, you're absolutely right that WMI isn't what I thought it is. I've only used > the TK package (old habits) and want to do better! Would you like to meet up or > 'phone? Suggest a meetup (since we're both in West London). I've sent you my details off-list. Feel free to text or email to arrange times etc. Can't do this evening (19th) or this Thursday, but other than that just suggest something. TJG From pdr at pdr.cx Mon Mar 19 11:28:07 2007 From: pdr at pdr.cx (Pete Ryland) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:28:07 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python evening talks in London: Ten lines of code In-Reply-To: <45FD9FE3.4090903@timgolden.me.uk> References: <45F8877D.2030003@reportlab.com> <45F91ADD.7010609@timgolden.me.uk> <45FC3AD3.3030901@compuserve.com> <45FC4F63.6070309@timgolden.me.uk> <45FD9FE3.4090903@timgolden.me.uk> Message-ID: On 18/03/07, Tim Golden wrote: > I think I must have met you or one of your colleagues > at one of the London Python meetups some months ago, > at the Bank of England place. (And, I think, had > some email correspondence with someone as well). Quite possible. I do go to these on occasion. > Glad > to hear that WMI is getting used out there, although > ironically I hardly use it myself these days! (Out of > interest, do you use my module or have you rolled your > own?) I'm not sure, I'm not one of the product engineers, and I don't have the core product code around as I'm on site. I'll let you know when I'm next in the office. > But this is not going to buy the baby a new hat (to > coin a phrase). Michael G: has anyone come forward > privately with definite offers of help? We obviously > have to get this moving if we're going to fit into > this cancellation. Has anyone come forward either > to flesh out your spec. or to offer an alternative? I'm still willing to do my talk about the prototype I'm working on which provides a very-high-level GUI toolkit, but this may not be appropriate for a first lecture. Depends on the spectrum of people we are expecting. Pete From andy at reportlab.com Mon Mar 19 15:36:11 2007 From: andy at reportlab.com (Andy Robinson) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:36:11 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python evening talks in London: Ten lines of code In-Reply-To: <45FDCF79.2010507@compuserve.com> References: <45F8877D.2030003@reportlab.com> <45F91ADD.7010609@timgolden.me.uk> <45FC3AD3.3030901@compuserve.com> <45FC4F63.6070309@timgolden.me.uk> <45FD9FE3.4090903@timgolden.me.uk> <45FDCF79.2010507@compuserve.com> Message-ID: <45FE9FDB.4090509@reportlab.com> Michael Grazebrook wrote: > @Tim > Nobody has volunteered off-line. I reckon you volunteered! Thanks. I'm > going to try to persuade Andy Robinson to do 10 minutes if I can, but > he's on holiday this week. Oi. It's a BUSINESS TRIP. Never mind that I am with the tourist board of an exotic tropical island, the story is that I am working ;-) But sadly, I'm also away the week of the 11th :-( Nevertheless I ams sure we can find a good speaker or two. I'll help recruit next week if not sorted by then. - Andy From andy at reportlab.com Mon Mar 19 05:48:50 2007 From: andy at reportlab.com (Andy Robinson) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 04:48:50 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python lecture series In-Reply-To: <45FC2349.8090208@compuserve.com> References: <45FC2349.8090208@compuserve.com> Message-ID: <45FE1632.5070102@reportlab.com> > WE Can act fast enough! A speaker cancelled for the 11th April. Michael, I'd love to help with a talk, but am travelling at that time. - Andy From smedley358 at btinternet.com Mon Mar 19 20:02:46 2007 From: smedley358 at btinternet.com (Richard Smedley) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:02:46 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] Python evening talks in London: Ten lines of code In-Reply-To: References: <45F8877D.2030003@reportlab.com> <45F91ADD.7010609@timgolden.me.uk> <45FC3AD3.3030901@compuserve.com> <45FC4F63.6070309@timgolden.me.uk> Message-ID: <20070319190246.1a8a1adb@localhost> > Funnily enough, my company's business revolves around a "discovery > engine" which is entirely written in python. It uses wmi, ssh, snmp > and other technologies to find and gather information from customers' > server estates. We use omniORB (it's developer works for us), > BerkeleyDB, and a whole host of other technologies. Perhaps I could > get some of our engineers to present some talks too. I'd be tempted to make the journey to London for that talk - but how about you come up to Manchester or Birmingham to give at at one of the two autumn Python conferences / PyCamps? Cheers, - Richard -- Richard Smedley, rs at m6-it.org Technical Director, www.M6-IT.org M6-IT CIC +44 (0)779 456 07 14 Sustainable Third Sector IT solutions. PRINCE2[TM] Project Management Web services * Back-ups * Support * Training & Certification * E-Mail M6-IT is a Community Interest Company, limited by guarantee. Registered in England & Wales, Registration No: 6040154 11 St Marks Road, Stourbridge, West Midlands, DY9 7DT Northern Office: 4, Hollins Green, Bradwall, Cheshire, CW10 0LA. From doug at isotoma.com Tue Mar 20 12:24:11 2007 From: doug at isotoma.com (Doug Winter) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:24:11 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] PyCamp UK Message-ID: <45FFC45B.8080100@isotoma.com> There was a lot of talk of this in early Feb, but then it's all gone quiet. Are things "happening" or has it died a death? Is there anything we can do to help it happen? Cheers, doug. -- Isotoma, Open Source Software Consulting - http://www.isotoma.com Tel: 01904 567349, Mobile: 07879 423002, Fax: 020 79006980 Postal Address: Tower House, Fishergate, York, YO10 4UA, UK Registered in England. Company No 5171172. VAT GB843570325. Registered Office: 19a Goodge Street, London, W1T 2PH From ms at cerenity.org Tue Mar 20 12:45:22 2007 From: ms at cerenity.org (Michael Sparks) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:45:22 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] PyCamp UK In-Reply-To: <45FFC45B.8080100@isotoma.com> References: <45FFC45B.8080100@isotoma.com> Message-ID: <200703201145.23102.ms@cerenity.org> Hi Doug, On Tuesday 20 March 2007 11:24, Doug Winter wrote: > There was a lot of talk of this in early Feb, but then it's all gone > quiet. Are things "happening" or has it died a death? Is there > anything we can do to help it happen? It hasn't died a death, I've had a preliminary chat with the potential venue, and it looks good - they're happy with the idea. I'm suggesting the first PyCamp be a relatively modest affair, which also has the benefit of low cost. Since clearly this would work better if I posted details, I'll set up a small wiki at some point either today or tomorrow, and post about it again then to start moving things forward. Many thanks for prodding :-) Michael. From ms at cerenity.org Thu Mar 22 16:44:07 2007 From: ms at cerenity.org (Michael Sparks) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:44:07 +0000 Subject: [python-uk] BBC Research, Kamaelia & Google's Summer of Code 2007 Message-ID: <200703221544.09408.ms@cerenity.org> Hi, We're participating in Google's Summer of Code as a mentor organisation again, and I thought it worth spreading some extra publicity on mailing lists, I'm on that I think might have some interested people. (I perhaps should've sent this sooner!) * What's Google Summer of Code? Essentially it's Google paying students to work on open source projects and being mentored in those projects, producing useful code and learning useful skills. Part of the aim is to increase the number of people bitten by the open source bug :-) * How is BBC Research/ Kamaelia involved? Like last year we're a mentor organisation, Kamaelia is the open source project that project applications are invited for. It's aim is to make highly concurrent systems natural to create and simple to maintain. (given a choice of forces the we choose the latter) We seem to be having some success in this and have a number of systems we've built using Kamaelia. Kamaelia is primarily focussed around building networked, multimedia systems, tools and applications, however Kamaelia is a generic component framework & toolset. The current implementation is in python, but the approach and concepts are portable with a proof of concept in python. Our project ideas and guidance page is here: * http://kamaelia.sourceforge.net/SummerOfCode2007 However, we're also interested other ideas beyond that, especially systems that use Kamaelia that can act as exemplars. To give an idea of potential scope, a list of components can be found here: * http://kamaelia.sourceforge.net/Components * Who can Apply ? You need to be a student now, or in september enrolled at a university degree course or similar level of institution/degree. * When is the deadline ? Monday midnight. * Url? http://code.google.com/soc/ Please feel free to forward this to any students or student groups you would find this interesting ! :-) Regards, Michael. -- Michael Sparks, Senior Research Engineer, BBC Research, Technology Group michael.sparks at rd.bbc.co.uk, Kamaelia Project Lead, http://kamaelia.sf.net/ From micahel at gmail.com Mon Mar 26 11:06:46 2007 From: micahel at gmail.com (Michael Hudson) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:06:46 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] EuroPython 2007: Call for Proposals Message-ID: Book Monday 9th July to Wednesday 11th July 2007 in your calendar! EuroPython 2007, the European Python and Zope Conference, will be held in Vilnius, Lithuania. Last year's conference was a great success, featuring a variety of tracks, amazing lightning talks and inspiring keynotes. With your participation, we want to make EuroPython 2007, the sixth EuroPython, even more successful than the previous five. Talks, Papers and Themes ------------------------ This year we have decided to borrow a few good ideas from PyCon, one of which is to move away from the 'track' structure. Instead, speakers are invited to submit presentations about anything they have done that they think would be of interest to the Python community. We will then arrange them into related groups and schedule them in the space available. In the past, EuroPython participants have found the following themes to be of interest: * Science * Python Language and Libraries * Web Related Technologies * Education * Games * Agile Methodologies and Testing * Social Skills In addition to talks, we will also accept full paper submissions about any of the above themes. The Call for Refereed Papers will be posted shortly. The deadline for talk proposals is Friday 18th May at midnight (24:00 CEST, Central European Summer Time, UTC+2). Other ways to participate ------------------------- Apart from giving talks, there are plenty of other ways to participate in the conference. Just attending and talking to people you find here can be satisfying enough, but there are three other kinds of activity you may wish to plan for: Lightning Talks, Open Space and Sprints. Lightning Talks are very short talks that give you just enough time to introduce a topic or project, Open Space is an area reserved for informal discussions, and Sprints are focused gatherings for developers interested in particular projects. For more information please see the following pages: * Lightning Talks: http://www.europython.org/sections/events/lightning_talks * Open Space: http://www.europython.org/sections/events/open_space * Sprints: http://www.europython.org/sections/sprints_and_wiki Your Contribution ----------------- To propose a talk or a paper, go to... * http://www.europython.org/submit For more general information on the conference, please visit... * http://www.europython.org/ Looking forward to seeing what you fine folk have been up to, The EuroPython Team From rakesh.thakrar at microcom-recruitment.com Thu Mar 29 00:54:25 2007 From: rakesh.thakrar at microcom-recruitment.com (Rakesh Thakrar) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 23:54:25 +0100 Subject: [python-uk] Python Contractors Wanted for long term contract work.......... Message-ID: Hi All, My client is looking for 3x Python or C++ Developers to join a new and exciting R&D Project. 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