To clarify how Python handles two equal objects

[Jen Kris]

Thanks for your comments.  I'd like to make one small point.  You say:

"Assignment in Python is a matter of object references. It's not
"conform them as long as they remain equal". You'll have to think in
terms of object references the entire way."

But where they have been set to the same object, an operation on one will affect the other as long as they are equal (in Python).  So I will have to conform them in those cases because Python will reflect any math operation in both the array and the matrix.  



Jan 10, 2023, 12:28 by rosuav at gmail.com:

> On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 at 07:14, Jen Kris via Python-list
> <python-list at python.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> I am writing a spot speedup in assembly language for a short but computation-intensive Python loop, and I discovered something about Python array handling that I would like to clarify.
>>
>> For a simplified example, I created a matrix mx1 and assigned the array arr1 to the third row of the matrix:
>>
>> mx1 = [ [ 1, 2, 3 ], [ 4, 5, 6 ], [ 7, 8, 9 ] ]
>> arr1 = mx1[2]
>>
>> The pointers to these are now the same:
>>
>> ida = id(mx1[2]) - 140260325306880
>> idb = id(arr1) - 140260325306880
>>
>> That’s great because when I encounter this in assembly or C, I can just borrow the pointer to row 3 for the array arr1, on the assumption that they will continue to point to the same object.  Then when I do any math operations in arr1 it will be reflected in both arrays because they are now pointing to the same array:
>>
>
> That's not an optimization; what you've done is set arr1 to be a
> reference to that object.
>
>> But on the next iteration we assign arr1 to something else:
>>
>> arr1 = [ 10, 11, 12 ]
>> idc = id(arr1) – 140260325308160
>> idd = id(mx1[2]) – 140260325306880
>>
>> Now arr1 is no longer equal to mx1[2], and any subsequent operations in arr1 will not affect mx1.
>>
>
> Yep, you have just set arr1 to be a completely different object.
>
>> So where I’m rewriting some Python code in a low level language, I can’t assume that the two objects are equal because that equality will not remain if either is reassigned.  So if I do some operation on one array I have to conform the two arrays for as long as they remain equal, I can’t just do it in one operation because I can’t rely on the objects remaining equal.
>>
>> Is my understanding of this correct?  Is there anything I’m missing?
>>
>
> Assignment in Python is a matter of object references. It's not
> "conform them as long as they remain equal". You'll have to think in
> terms of object references the entire way.
>
> ChrisA
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