for -- else: what was the motivation?

[avi.e.gross at gmail.com]

Realistically an idea about something new is easier to consider than
changing what you have.

Some newer languages may well be designed from the start in new ways and
Julia is an example of a language that allows a wide swath of UNICODE
characters to be used in identifiers. They also let you type them in even
using ASCII keyboards for some level of compatibility.

The original topic asked about the topic of re-using ELSE as a known keyword
in a context I and some others feel is a stretch. But the alterative could
be to add an ever increasing number of keywords to meet new needs.

I had another crazy thought that I AM NOT ASKING anyone to do. OK?

I was wondering about a sort of catch method you could use that generates a
pseudo-signal only when the enclosed preceding  loop exits normally as a
sort of way to handle the ELSE need without the use of a keyword known by
the language. All you would need is an object of the right kind that is
thrown and optionally caught.

Of course, even if I fleshed this out and even if anyone thought it made
sense, there is no such need now as Python has made a choice that meets the
need even if few may dare use it or even know about it! LOL!




-----Original Message-----
From: Python-list <python-list-bounces+avi.e.gross=gmail.com at python.org> On
Behalf Of Antoon Pardon
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2022 1:38 PM
To: python-list at python.org
Subject: Re: for -- else: what was the motivation?



Op 16/10/2022 om 19:03 schreef Chris Angelico:
> On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 at 03:57, Antoon Pardon<antoon.pardon at vub.be>  wrote:
>>
>> Op 16/10/2022 om 17:05 schreef Chris Angelico:
>>> On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 at 22:47, Antoon Pardon<antoon.pardon at vub.be>
wrote:
>>>> Why would I need good luck? I expressed an idea and you didn't like it.
>>>> That won't affect my life in a meaningful way.
>>> Well, with that attitude, it's not going to affect anyone else's 
>>> life either, so go ahead, carry on.
>> What attitude? I just floated a little idea. It was not 
>> meant/expected to affect anyone else's life. So why do you react as if it
was?
>>
> You expressed an idea that you would like to see implemented in 
> Python, and part of that idea was that people would be *obliged* to 
> write their code using non-ASCII keywords. If that were to be 
> implemented, it absolutely WOULD affect many people's lives.

So what? I made it clear that was an if I didn't expect to happen.
An idea that doesn't happen will not affect anyone, whatever the
consequences tied to the idea.

>   So if
> you're saying that your idea was not meant to affect anyone else's 
> life, you are saying that you floated the idea fully intending for it 
> to be ignored, which makes me wonder why you posted it in the first 
> place.

People can find it interesting to discuss an idea, even if they think there
is no chance the idea will be carried out.

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