Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

[Paul Bryan]

I do not believe my proposal has reached—or will reach—consensus. It
seems there are some who still value the linkage between the two, and
the S/N ratio is indeed low enough it doesn't warrant changing from the
status quo. Thanks everyone for the consideration and discussion. 

Paul

On Thu, 2021-05-06 at 18:49 +0100, Stestagg wrote:
> Where's this discussion going?
> 
> Let's not get too caught up on definitions or the sizes of everyone's
> respective .. newsgroups.
> 
> Which of the practically possible options are best for this list <->
> newsgroup setup?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Steve
> 
> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 6:47 PM Jon Ribbens via Python-list <
> python-list at python.org> wrote:
> 
> > On 2021-05-06, Richard Damon <Richard at Damon-Family.org> wrote:
> > > On 5/6/21 9:44 AM, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote:
> > > > Sounds like nearly all moderated lists/forums then.
> > > 
> > > Then perhaps you have never been on a real Moderated mailing list
> > > or
> > > Forum.
> > 
> > Ah, the "no true scotsforum" argument ;-)
> > 
> > > > > While you could setup a robo-moderator to do a similar thing,
> > > > > Usenet
> > > > > posters will not have 'pre-subscribed' before posting, and
> > > > > the From
> > > > > address is no where near as relaible as invalid From
> > > > > addresses ARE
> > > > > allowed, and since the message comes via a NNTP injection
> > > > > source relay,
> > > > > non-verifiable. This make the job a LOT harder.
> > > > It makes essentially no difference at all.
> > > It sure does. Have you every actually TRIED to run a moderated
> > > Usenet
> > > group, or know anyone who has, especially a somewhat busy group?
> > 
> > As I already mentioned, I am a moderator of a Usenet group.
> > 
> > > I am presuming that the current gateway isn't bringing all the
> > > messages
> > > from Usenet into the mailing list. This is obvious as we don't
> > > see the
> > > noise here. The Cabal that runs the 'Big-8' doesn't really care
> > > what
> > > sort of filters are added at such a gateway.
> > > 
> > > To setup a moderated group that defines similar filters in place
> > > for
> > > messages getting to Usenet, particularly for a group intended to
> > > replace
> > > a 'reasonably' working unmoderated group, is likely not going to
> > > be
> > > viewed well.
> > 
> > Have you every actually TRIED to run a moderated Usenet group, or
> > know
> > anyone who has, especially a somewhat busy group? Of *course*
> > moderated
> > groups put filters on what they receive, what do you think group
> > moderation is *for* if not to block things?
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> >