news.bbs.nz is spewing duplicates to comp.lang.python

Eli the Bearded * at eli.users.panix.com
Tue Apr 21 17:42:42 EDT 2020


This just arrived at my newserver:

    Path: reader2.panix.com!panix!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!news.unit0.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!4.us.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!xmission!csiph.com!news.bbs.nz!.POSTED.agency.bbs.nz!not-for-mail
    From: Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> (Eli the Bearded)
    Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
    Subject: Re: Getting a 401 from requests.get, but not when logging in via the br
    Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 19:18:48 +1200
    Organization: fsxNet Usenet Gateway | bbs.nz/#fsxNet
    Message-ID: <3057175147 at f38.n261.z1.binkp.net>
    References: <1492048974 at f38.n261.z1.binkp.net>
    Mime-Version: 1.0
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    Injection-Info: news.bbs.nz; posting-host="8IWYKlztXHa0+IViEdY46zrq8kpk7dC9fTbT74JiSDQ";
	    logging-data="12595"; mail-complaints-to="abuse at news.bbs.nz"
    User-Agent: VSoup v1.2.9.47Beta [95/NT]
    X-Comment-To: dcwhatthe
    X-MailConverter: SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    Lines: 36

I find that very curious because the post is mine but which I
sent out with these headers:

    Path: reader2.panix.com!panix!qz!not-for-mail
    From: Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com>
    Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
    Subject: Re: Getting a 401 from requests.get, but not when logging in via the browser.
    Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 19:18:48 +0000 (UTC)
    Organization: Some absurd concept
    Lines: 37
    Message-ID: <eli$2004201510 at qaz.wtf>
    References: <48a2e19c-0a52-4cfa-b498-15e3d15b6a5c at googlegroups.com>
    NNTP-Posting-Host: panix5.panix.com
    X-Trace: reader2.panix.com 1587410328 23363 166.84.1.5 (20 Apr 2020 19:18:48 GMT)
    X-Complaints-To: abuse at panix.com
    NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 19:18:48 +0000 (UTC)
    X-Liz: It's actually happened, the entire Internet is a massive game of Redcode
    X-Motto: "Erosion of rights never seems to reverse itself." -- kenny at panix
    X-US-Congress: Moronic Fucks.
    X-Attribution: EtB
    XFrom: is a real address
    Encrypted: double rot-13
    User-Agent: Vectrex rn 2.1 (beta)

The timezone on the date header has changed, the subject has been
truncated, the Path and injection info is all different, and most
crucially, the MESSAGE-ID and REFERENCES are completely bogus.
News servers rely on Message-ID to tell if a message is unique. Change
it, and it is now a new message. Screwing up References: header while
changing the Subject: is going to break news threading.

The newsgroup is almost not worth the effort with all the breakage that
happens here.

Elijah
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other breakage happens with References: headers due to mailing list stuff


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