So apparently I've been banned from this list

Mark Lawrence breamoreboy at gmail.com
Sun Sep 30 15:39:29 EDT 2018


On 30/09/18 17:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> I've been unexpectedly in hospital for the past two weeks, without
> internet or email. Just before my unexpected hospital stay, I was
> apparently banned (without warning) by Ethan Furman in what seems to me
> to be an act of retaliation for my protest against his overzealous and
> hostile tone-policing against a newcomer to the list, Reto Brunner:
> 
> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2018-September/737020.html
> 
> (I did make one mistake in that post: I claimed that I hadn't said
> anything at the time on Ethan's last round of bans. That was incorrect, I
> actually did make an objection at the time.)
> 
> Since I'm still catching up on emails, I have just come across Ethan's
> notice to me (copied below).
> 
> Notwithstanding Ethan's comment about having posted the suspension notice
> on the list, I see no sign that he actually did so. At the risk of
> further retaliation from the moderators, I am ignoring the ban in this
> instance for the purposes of transparency and openness. (I don't know if
> this will show up on the mailing list or the newsgroup.)
> 
> Since I believe this ban is illegitimate, I intend to challenge it if
> possible. In the meantime, I may not reply on-list to any responses.
> 
> 
> 
> Subject: Fwd: Temporary Suspension
> To: <steve@ REDACTED >
> From: Ethan Furman <ethan@ REDACTED >
> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 11:22:40 -0700
> In-Reply-To: <b19aed3d-b56e-3fe2-264e-1c1dae076a8c at stoneleaf.us>
> 
> Steven, you've probably already seen this on Python List, but I forgot
> to email it directly to you.  My apologies.
> 
> --
> ~Ethan~
> Python List Moderator
> 
> 
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: Temporary Suspension
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 07:09:04 -0700
> From: Ethan Furman <ethan at stoneleaf.us>
> To: Python List Moderators <python-list-owner at python.org>
> 
> As a list moderator, my goal for this list is to keep the list a useful
> resource -- but what does "useful" mean?  To me it means a place that
> python users can go to ask questions, get answers, offer advice, and all
> without sarcasm, name-calling, and deliberate mis-understandings.
> Conversations should stay mostly on-topic.
> 
> Due to hostile and inappropriate posts*, Steven D'Aprano is temporarily
> suspended from Python List for a period of two months.
> 
> This suspension, along with past suspensions, is being taken only after
> careful consideration and consultation with other Python moderators.
> 
> --
> ~Ethan~
> Python List Moderator
> 
> 
> * posts in question:
> 
> [1] https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2018-July/735735.html
> [2] https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2018-September/737020.html
> 

Personally I think Ethan Furman should be removed from his position as a 
moderator as he's less than useless at the job.

-- 
My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask
what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence




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