RFC: Proposal: Deterministic Object Destruction

ooomzay at gmail.com ooomzay at gmail.com
Thu Mar 1 18:38:15 EST 2018


On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 12:15:57 AM UTC, Paul Rubin wrote:
> RAII is similar to Python's "with" statement.  So it sounds like OP
> wants to replace one "malignant carbuncle" with another one.  

I would like to understand why you think RAII is not substantially more 
pythonic than "With". Below I have sketched out a File-like resource 
management scenario using both PEP343 and RAII idioms for comparison. 

First lets look at the implementation of the competing resource management 
classes:-


class PEP343FileAccess():
    '''
    A File Access-like resource with self-contained Context Manager for use 
    with "with".

    This could be acheived with two separate classes but I don't think that 
    adds anything except lines of code.
    '''
	
    # Structors
    
    def __init__(self, filename, mode):
        self.filename = filename
        self.mode = mode        
        self.handle = None
        # dummy file content accessible only when handle is not None
        self.lines = ['one', 'two', 'three'] 

    # PEP343 Context Manager compliance
    
    def __enter__(self):
        self.handle = low_level_file_open(self.filename, self.mode) # fictitious
        return self
    
    def __exit__(self, extype, exvalue, extraceback):
        low_level_file_close(self.handle) # fictitious function
        self.handle = None
    
    # Example methods

    def __iter__(self):
        assert self.handle, "File has been closed"
        for line in self.lines: 
            yield line

    def write(self, line):
        assert self.handle, "File has been closed"
        self.lines.append(line)


class RAIIFileAccess():
    '''File Access-like Resource using RIAA idiom'''
    
    # Structors

    def __init__(self, filename, mode):
        self.handle = low_level_file_open(filename, mode) # fictitious
        # dummy content accessible as long as the object exists (invariant)
        self.lines = ['one', 'two', 'three'] 
        
    def __del__(self):        
        low_level_file_close(self.handle) # fictitious function

    # Example methods

    def __iter__(self):
        for line in self.lines:
            yield line

    def write(self, line):
        self.lines.append(line)


What I see is that PEP343 requires two new methods: __enter__ & __exit__.
RIAA requires no new methods.

RIAA resources are invariant: If you have a reference to it you can use it.

PEP343 resources can not be invariant: To be robust the enter/exit state
must be tracked and checked. (assert self.handle in the example)

Now lets look at example resource usage:-


def pep343_example():

    with PEP343FileAccess("src.txt", 'r') as src, 
         PEP343FileAccess("dst.txt", 'w') as dst:

        for line in src: 
            dst.write(line)

def raii_example():
    
    src = RAIIFileAccess("src.txt", 'r')
    dst = RAIIFileAccess("dst.txt", 'w')

    for line in src:
        dst.write(line)


PEP343 requires specialised "with" syntax, RIAA requires no new syntax.

Furthermore, although src & dst objects are still accessible outside the 
PEP343 "with" block they are not in a usable state (not invariant).

In the RIAA case the resources are guaranteed to be in a usable state as long 
as any reference exists (invariant). References can also be safely
passed around.The resource will be freed/closed when the last man has finished 
with it, even in the face of exceptions.




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