The "loop and a half"

alister alister.ware at ntlworld.com
Mon Oct 9 10:35:19 EDT 2017


On Mon, 09 Oct 2017 17:27:27 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:

> Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards at gmail.com>:
> 
>> On 2017-10-09, alister via Python-list <python-list at python.org> wrote:
>>
>>> or if you want the luxury of a GUI editor simply ssh to the remote
>>> machine & run the editor there (using X forwarding to route the
>>> display to you local PC)
>>
>> AFAICT, most modern GUI toolkits are no longer usable via X forwarding
>> at sub-gigabit network speeds. The toolkit designers have botched
>> things up so that even the most trivial operation requires hundreds of
>> round-trips between server and client.
> 
> Yep.
> 
> Funny thing is, xterm runs nicely over a 9,600-baud line, but there's no
> hope to get Firefox, Evince or the like to run over a 1,500,000 bps
> connection.
> 
> Latency is more of an issue than throughput, indicating that those
> round-trips are sequential. X11 was designed to be pipelined but the
> toolkits can't pipeline themselves.
> 
> 
> Marko

works fine over my wifi which is considerably less than gigabit speeds
then again I only run applications remotely that are sensible to run 
remotely such as text editors (geany) & file managers (thunar)
I cant see any reason why I would want to run a web browser remotely

I can see that even this would be too slow on some connections but it 
invariably works better that Remote desktop which seems to be the 
preferred approach in the windows world where they don't have much choice.




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