connect four (game)

[nospam.bartc]

On 27/11/2017 03:04, Michael Torrie wrote:
> On 11/26/2017 08:39 AM, bartc wrote:
>> The problem was traced to two lines that were in the wrong order (in the
>> original program). I can't see how unit tests can have helped in any way
>> at all, and it would probably have taken much longer.
>
> What makes you think that?  Surely other decoders were doing the right
> thing and you could compare your output against theirs?  JPEGs may be
> lossy but the path through the decoder should be deterministic.
>
> Or even if every decoder is slightly unique, at least yours should
> output self-consistent data.

The original used some floating point code, I changed that to use integer code
(eg a combination of multiplying and shifting; it make a difference on compiled
 version, perhaps not so much in .py).

But also (IIRC) there was a difference in taking the remainder of negative
integer division, where different compilers may round up or down.

So there can easily be differences when compared at the binary level, but which
 shouldn't be noticeable with the human eye.

(https://pastebin.com/P7V1Bvkk
https://pastebin.com/raw/P7V1Bvkk  raw version with no ads, or colour)

  In other words, once you know you fixed
> the chroma problem, you can use that jpeg as a unit test to make sure
> future big fixes and enhancements don't break something else.
> Regression testing is very important. Many times I've fixed a bug, only
> to introduce new ones that broke formerly correct behavior.
>
> Anyway, unit testing is certainly a challenging concept, and I'm no more
> good at it than you are.

Some people are obsessed with having unit tests. Others are the same about
using debuggers, especially in compiled code.

I've never used either, but I do alright. Some of the stuff I do is unsuitable
for those for technical reasons, but also some of the problems I've come across
 just don't fit into such patterns.

People should use what works best for them, unless they're in a team where the
have to use certain tools and working methods.


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bartc