Python Learning

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 18 December 2017 09:19:01 Chris Angelico wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 1:09 AM, Rhodri James <rhodri at kynesim.co.uk> 
wrote:
> > On 18/12/17 13:28, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> >> However, I have been doing quite a bit of hiring, quite
> >> successfully, I might add. I am not prejudiced one way or another.
> >> Your résumé doesn't count. Your education doesn't count. What you
> >> can do for the team counts, and that is measured during the
> >> interview process.
> >
> > While I agree with most of what you say, I disagree with you here. 
> > Your CV (résumé) does count, just not necessarily in the way most
> > people expect.
> >
> > I haven't often been involved in hiring, but the few times I have we
> > had more applicants than it was feasible to interview.  We used CVs
> > as the only thing we had to filter with, looking for *interesting*
> > people.
>
> This is NORMALLY going to be the case. How many hours does it take to
> truly evaluate a candidate? You can't afford to interview a hundred
> people only to find that ninety of them are hopelessly unqualified.
> Somehow, you have to sift out the most likely candidates, and THEN you
> actually meet with them.
>
> But Marko is partly right too. Your CV/résumé isn't going to land you
> the job, nor is your education. But they might land you the interview.
> With the students I work with, there's a dedicated Careers Services
> team that help them to polish their portfolio projects, because a
> portfolio is *way* more indicative than a CV or a college degree; but
> even then, the best portfolio in the world is only good enough to get
> you as far as an interview.
>
> > Exactly what
> > "interesting" meant was somewhat arbitrary; we put one person
> > through to interview because she was a cellist, and that would have
> > given us a complete string quartet (she didn't get the job, sadly).
>
> Heh. Pity. That would be fun.
>
> ChrisA

I'll have to agree with most of this about "interesting" people.

But one thing I always  note from the resume or CV is any certifications 
they may carry. I am a C.E.T., and that card laid in front of an HR/GM 
type has gotten me every job I've applied for since 1972, but sadly 
those are rare birds indeed as I've not in the 45 years since, 
encountered another such individual. So I've had to depend on their 
familiarity with a soldering iron and some scope probes to determine if 
they would be useful to me.

That certification is required to get a business license for an 
electronics service business in Kalipornia, weeds out the fly by 
nighters there was a plague of back in the 60's _& 70's.

There really ought to be a similar program for coders. I'd probably fail 
that one, but generally my code works, and does not crash. And I've 
learned a lot while fixing it if it does crash. :)

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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