The Cost of Dynamism (was Re: Pyhon 2.x or 3.x, which is faster?)

[Mark Lawrence]

On 23/03/2016 06:09, Ben Finney wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano <steve at pearwood.info> writes:
>
>> On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 06:47 pm, Ben Finney wrote:
>>
>>> Bart can show good faith by *learning* idiomatic Python, with the
>>> humility of a beginner. And also by refraining from rhetoric about
>>> how bad Python's performance is, until he gains experience to make
>>> those claims.
>>
>> "Humility of a beginner"... what a strange phrase to use about
>> somebody who has been programming for decades.
>
> What a strange reading of what I wrote. Clearly I'm referring to the
> fact Bart is a beginner in Python.
>
> To show good faith in learning Python – if indeed that is what Bart
> wants, which I'm not convinced of given how much he prefers to talk
> about a different private programming language instead – then he should
> be taking advantage of the teaching resources that have been offered
> numerous times.
>
>> What exactly is the problem here? Is it that Bart hasn't earned the
>> right to say what we all know, that Python is slow, because he's an
>> outsider?
>
> The problem is that Bart simultaneously is a beginner at Python, and
> expresses astonishment that everyone shrugs when Bart's
> dreadfully-written code performs so badly.
>
> Good faith is contradicted by asserting knowledge of Python, complaining
> about how some deliberately non-idiomatic Python code is performing
> poorly, dismissing suggestions for improvement — specifically in the
> context of someone who admittedly knows so little about Python.
>

+1

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Mark Lawrence