Moderation and slight change of (de facto) policy
Wildman
best_lay at yahoo.com
Sun Apr 17 13:21:20 EDT 2016
On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 17:57:51 +0100, Tim Golden wrote:
> There's been a bit of chatter lately about the moderation on the Python
> List (and, indirectly, comp.lang.python). The list moderators have
> suspended a couple of posters for a while and we've been discussing a
> little our policy towards non-subscribed posts.
>
> First, a quick summary of the current settings of the list:
>
> * Any post from someone who's not subscribed to the list is held for
> moderation
>
> * Subscribers are also held for moderation until a moderator clears that
> flag (which we usually do on the first post, unless there's some doubt).
> This is basically to prevent canny spammers from signing up and then
> posting garbage.
>
> * There are a few other rules which will cause posts to be held for
> moderation: unduly large posts, certain odd headers, large-scale
> cross-posting, etc.
>
> * All attachments are stripped
>
> Exactly how held posts are handled is down to each moderator: generally,
> though, it's quite obvious as most spam is very blatant. Occasionally,
> of course, we have a post which borders on (or is clearly)
> objectionable, and we have to decide whether to reject it at source or
> to let it through and let the community deal.
>
> Our approach to non-subscribed posts has been to let them through if
> they're clearly genuine, ie non-spam. However, as has been pointed out
> recently, this can quite easily result in useful advice falling on deaf
> ears. The OP isn't subscribed to the list, may not be reading it via
> gmane/ggroups etc. and may simply expect people to cc them directly. The
> list subscribers have no way of knowing whether someone's subscribed or
> not, so they reply to the List. And, of course, some people object to
> cc-ing individuals as well as the List.
>
> Our new approach (from as soon as we set it up) will be to reject
> unsubscribed posts with a friendly message indicating how to subscribe.
> The only exception we expect to make is if we spot a regular subscriber
> who's come in on a different address for some reason (eg posting from a
> phone).
>
> The main effect, we hope, will be that people asking questions actually
> see the answers. Of course, as we've seen in the past, some people will
> be confounded by the way in which a mailing list works (ie that they see
> all the chatter going through not just the answers to their question).
> But I don't see there's very much we can do about that except to help
> them to understand how it works.
>
> In general, please feel free to feed back to the list owners. Like
> everyone around here, we're all volunteers so we can't guarantee to
> respond in any particular timeframe, but we'll try.
>
> TJG
How will this change affect posts to comp.lang.python?
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