Idle's Shell: prompts and indents (was ...) Idle users please read

[Terry Reedy]

On 7/20/2014 9:22 PM, Rick Johnson wrote:
> On Sunday, July 20, 2014 4:52:36 PM UTC-5, Terry Reedy wrote:

> The *real* problem is that the "interactive events" of the
> "editor window" and the "interactive events" of the "shell
> window" are far too tightly integrated with one another.
>
> I myself appreciate the finger saving principles of "DRY",
> however, sometimes, two distinct functionalities just
> cannot be implemented *IN A CLEAR MANNER* without repeating
> *some* of the code.
>
> We need to understand that IDLE is split into two distinct
> "modes", if you will -- the "interactive shell" and the
> "editor window". Attempting to use the same code to handle
> keystrokes for the shell *AND* the editor is a stumbling
> block to extending this mess.

Slightly simplifying, the shell window and output windows are subclasses 
of the current editor window. I have thought about making all three 
inherit from a base interactive window. This would be a bit cleaner than 
the current design. I am not convinced of the need for more drastic change.

>> Ideas don't count until recorded on the tracker.

Which, as I reported back here, is why I promptly included both your 
OutputUndo idea and suggestion for a separate event and shortcut key in 
a new issue on the tracker.

> Hmm, okay.

>> Saimadhav has locked together a thin canvas with the text
>> for line numbers. It works in all my texts. I am just
>> waiting for him to try it with a thin text instead. If you
>> know some secret you think he missed. please describe it
>> here.
>
> How can i offer improvements if i don't know where to find
> the code?

http://bugs.python.org/issue17535

> And besides, if my comments here "don't count"

The ideas that I think are worth preserving and that I think are 
appropriate for the tracker I will put on the tracker. You can comment 
directly on the tracker yourself, but you would have to moderate your style.

-- 
Terry Jan Reedy