Python 3.3 and Pygame 19.2a install problems

[edvogel56 at gmail.com]

On Monday, February 3, 2014 12:43:06 AM UTC-6, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 2/2/2014 10:04 PM, EdV wrote:
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> >> Traceback (most recent call last): File
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> >> "C:\Users\Ed\Documents\SOMA\Minecraft and
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> >> Python\inventwithpython_src\dodger.py", line 1, in <module>
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>  >> import pygame, random, sys File
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> >> "C:\Python33\lib\site-packages\pygame\__init__.py", line 95, in
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> >> <module>
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>  >> from pygame.base import *
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> >> ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified module could not be
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> >> found.
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> > Found the answer here:
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> > http://www.reddit.com/r/inventwithpython/comments/1dzl8m/when_importing_pygame_i_get_importerror_dll_load/
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> >  Questions but no big deal - 1. Why doesn't pygame.org have the most
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> > recent install files compatible with the most recent python  I ended
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> > up finding them here: http://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/
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> The base problem is that Microsoft changes the Visual C runtime with 
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> each version of the VC compiler. Python 3.3 was compiled with a newer 
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> version. It is a nuisance for packages to keep recompiling with a new VC 
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> version. Py 3.4 is using the same version as 3.4, so PyGames *might* 
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> work with 3.4, or there might be other compatibilities.
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> > 2. Interesting that "3.2" pygames works with "3.3" python on my XP
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> > but the Win 7 required the "3.3" pygames.  Thoughts?
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> It is possible that the VC++2010 runtime does not work with XP, but 
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> requires Vista+ and that the Microsoft installer installs the older 
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> VC++2008 runtime on XP even when installing 3.3. If you install for a 
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> single user, the vcxxxxx.dll is in the python directory or subdirectory. 
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> For all-user installs, it is in one of the windows/systemxx directories. 
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> But this is just a guess.
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> -- 
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> Terry Jan Reedy

Thanks much.  Glad to be getting these ideas in mind before I start having kids do installations and not have something intelligent to talk about when things don't work.  I am more interested in having them explore programming but an important part of our work is how to deal with frustration and unexpected problems.