First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop

jonas.thornvall at gmail.com jonas.thornvall at gmail.com
Wed Oct 30 10:31:04 EDT 2013


Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 15:22:50 UTC+1 skrev Alister:
> On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 13:42:37 +0100, Antoon Pardon wrote:
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> > Op 30-10-13 13:17, Chris Angelico schreef:
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> >> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Antoon Pardon
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> >> <antoon.pardon at rece.vub.ac.be> wrote:
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> >> I broadly agree with your post (I'm of the school of thought that
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> >> braces are better than indentation for delimiting blocks), but I don't
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> >> think this argument holds water. All you need to do is be consistent
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> >> about tabs OR spaces (and I'd recommend tabs, since they're simpler and
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> >> safer), and you'll never have this trouble.
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> > Easier said than done. First of all I can be as consistent as possible,
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> > I can't just take code from someone else and insert it because that
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> > other person may be consistenly doing it different from me.
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> I disagree it is very easy.
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> 1) make sure you editor is set to inset 4 spaces rather than tab when 
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> pressing the tab key. consistency in your own code is now not an issue.
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> 2) when importing code from someone else a simple search & replace of tab 
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> with 4 spaces will instantly correct the formatting on code using tab 
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> without breaking code that doesn't.
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> > Then if you are working on different machines, the settings of your
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> > editor may not always be the same so that you have tabs on one machine
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> > and spaces on an other, which causes problem when you move the code.
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> that is fixed by setting your environment consistantly but step 2 above 
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> will fix it if you forget.
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> > Also when you have an xterm, selecting a tab and pasting it into another
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> > it will turn the tab into spaces.
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> Read pep 11 & always use 4 spaces for indentation not tab.
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> > All these things usually can be ignored, they typically only show up
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> > when you print something and things aren't aligned as you expect but
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> > with python you are forced to correct those things immediately, forcing
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> > you to focus on white space layout issues instead of on the logic of the
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> > code.
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> >> Also, the parser should tell you if you mix tabs and spaces, so that
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> >> won't trip anything either.
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> > Maybe you mean something different than I understand but a program
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> > throwing a syntax error because there is a tab instead of a number of
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> > spaces or vice versa, is something I would understand as tripping.
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> no more than failing to close a brace in a C like language
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> indentation is the syntax of python you will grow to love it, like most 
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> people I found it distracting at first even though i tended to indent 
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> other code (inconsistently)to make it readable.
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> -- 
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> I am what you will be; I was what you are.

Alister i do not ask for changing the actual implementation with indents that the compiler/interpretator work with. What i ask for is some courtesy relative the programmers using IDLE, to incorporate a simple automatic parser that let them who like to write slopy formatted with end instead to do so. And the parser in editor automaticly go in and autoindent *function, loops, if and allow end that the editor autoindent to end of loop. It can not be that hard i have implemented my own python using this...



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