JUST GOT HACKED

[rurpy at yahoo.com]

On 10/01/2013 08:24 AM, Daniel Stojanov wrote:
> On 02/10/2013 12:05 AM, "Νίκος" <nikos.gr33k at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for visting my website: you help me increase my google page
>> rank without actually utilizing SEO.
>> 
>> -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
> 
> 1) You need links, not page views to improve your Google rank.
> 
> 2) I just signed up the this mailing list. To the regulars, is this
> what normally happens on this list?

Recently, it seems to have become normal.

> 3) I'm a bit late to the party. Is Nikos a real sysadmin or is this
> some horrible inside joke I don't get?

Nikos is running a website he wrote in Python and seems to 
be learning as he goes.  He offends a number of people here 
by refusing to take "advice" such as hire someone, spend a 
few years learning python, system administration, webserver 
administration, and the like given without the slightest 
knowledge of Nikos' circumstances.  He also repeatedly re-
asks questions when he doesn't understand or like the answers
received, seems to prefer to find answers to questions by 
asking here rather than researching himself (tho it is not 
clear how much being a non-native English speaker plays into 
that.)  He is also willing to respond in kind to hostile remarks
addressed to him, and does not display proper deference to 
the regulars here in other way too.

All of the above irritates a number of people here, who, being
rather like Nikos themselves in their complete disregard for 
the signal-to-noise ratio or atmosphere of the group, find in 
him a good excuse to vent their own frustrations by responding 
with more patently useless "advice", insults, ridicule, threats 
and other vitriolic noise.  They rationalize this as applying 
social pressure blithely ignoring that it's shown no signs of
working.

In other words, many of Nikos' threads degenerate into a plain
old-fashioned flame war.  Probably the vast majority of readers
do their best to simply ignore the trash posts but there is 
small (but large enough) group of regulars who enjoy participating 
in such flame wars to degrade the quality of the group far more
than would be the case if they were able to follow the time-tested
advice of "don't feed the trolls".

While Stephen D'Aprano is often enough an abrasive poster in his
own right, his comments on the current situation are the most 
sensible I've seen in this disscussion:

 https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2013-October/656691.html
 https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2013-October/656716.html