Turnign greek-iso filenames => utf-8 iso

Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.python at pearwood.info
Thu Jun 13 23:05:53 EDT 2013


On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 19:20:06 +0300, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote:

> But iam not offering Steven full root access, but restricted user level
> access. Are you implying that for example one could elevate his
> privileges to root level access form within a normal restricted user
> account?

Me personally? Probably not. (But if I could, would I admit it?) But in 
general, there may be ways for an expert to elevate privileges. It 
depends on how well configured your server is, it depends on any security 
holes in your operating system and applications.


>> You have already been give a lesson about trusting the care of your
>> (and by extension your clients) resources to people you don't know, and
>> Chris, who gave you that lesson, is telling you that the course of
>> action you propose is unwise.

This is correct.

Do you know where I live? Do you even know what country I am in? Do you 
have a phone number for me? Do we have an agreement in writing explaining 
what you want me to do and what you will pay me and what I will do in 
return. It doesn't even need to be a formal contract, even just a few 
emails explaining the details and where we agree on what I am to do. Then 
at least you have some recourse if I do something bad.

Although, given that you are in Greece and I am in Australia, you don't 
have *much* recourse.


>> Steven has given every impression, over a long period, of being one of
>> the good guys, but *you don't know him*, and *you don't have any kind
>> of legal agreement with him* that would protect you should he turn out
>> to be malicious[1].
> 
> He is the only one helping me so far, to my hundreds of questiosn and in
> detail. He also the only one that didn't made fun of me because being
> inexperienced by making funny jokes at my expense.
> 
> I trust him.

Thank you for the kind words, and the trust, but I am not the only person 
helping you. You have had a lot of help over the last few months that you 
have been asking questions. If people are making fun of you, it is out of 
frustration that so often when we give you advice or answer your 
questions, you do not seem to pay any attention to the answers.

Nikos, many people have tried very, very hard to help you. You have not 
been the easiest person to deal with. You flood this forum asking the 
same question over and over and over again, sometimes only waiting a few 
minutes between posts. You ignore our advice, you flood the forum with so 
many copies of your code that it is impossible to keep track of which one 
is current. You keep changing your email identity. You argue when people 
tell you what error you are making. Even when the error message is right 
in front of you, you refuse to believe it and argue that the problem must 
be elsewhere.

Your English seems to be very good, but even if we make allowances for 
English not being your native language, you are still behaving badly. It 
is really, really frustrating dealing with you.

I tell you this, not because I want to be cruel or to hurt you, but as 
constructive advice. Understand what you do that is annoying to others, 
and try to stop doing those things.

Remember: just because your site is important to YOU does not make it 
important to US. We have our own lives, our own jobs, our own websites to 
look after. We are volunteers, and you are not paying for support. You 
can spend money, or you can spend time. You get to pick which one you 
spend, but you will end up spending one or the other.

At this point, I do not wish to take responsibility for fixing your 
Python programming issues. I don't mind sending you public advice, where 
others can step in if they think I have made a mistake, and where you 
have final responsibility for deciding whether or not to take my advice. 
But I do not wish to accept that responsibility in full.


> Also there is no other way of me solving this, so i have no other
> alternative and i *must* solve this its over 15 days i'am trying with
> this encoding issues, let alone years of trouble in various other
> scripts.

I am sorry that you are having problems, but being a webmaster is a big, 
complicated job. You have to learn about HTML, about CGI, about Python 
(or some other language, PHP, Javascript, Perl, etc.), about permissions 
and encodings and many other things. You cannot expect us to teach you 
all these things overnight. You have to do your own study.

The internet is full of places you can learn. Don't just rely on us. Go 
read books -- do you have a public library you can go to? Instead of 
asking us over and over and over again about bytes, go spend a few hours 
reading books in Greek about computer basics. Maybe you can go do a one-
day course? Don't just ask us about Unicode and encodings, read the web 
pages we have linked to. Here are two good places to start:

www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Unicode.html‎

http://nedbatchelder.com/text/unipain.html


If you have not read these two articles, STOP EVERYTHING AND GO READ 
THEM. Read every word, don't just skim them. Your English is very good, 
so you should have no problem with them.

There are probably other good sites to help you learn about security for 
CGI script. I have no idea about it. I can spell "cgi secuity", that's 
about all. Go do your own research. Be prepared that some websites will 
tell you bad advice, or incomplete advice, or obsolete advice. That's the 
cost of free advice. You can have it for free, and spend your own time, 
or pay for it, and spend someone else's time.

Good luck! This is not goodbye, because you are welcome to ask questions 
about *Python* here. But when you ask questions, try to make them *smart* 
questions that will be a pleasure for volunteers to answer:

http://sscce.org/‎

http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html‎

(I should not need to say this, but I will: read these websites too. If I 
send you a link, it is because you need to read it.)



-- 
Steven



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