Python Forum

[Pierre Quentel]

On 4 juin, 07:11, Steven D'Aprano <st... at REMOVE-THIS-
cybersource.com.au> wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 03:16:03 -0700, Pierre Quentel wrote:
> > So the OP's initiative should be an incentive to think on the format of
> > the interaction between all the range of Python users, from newbees to
> > gurus. We are in the 2.0 era, with social networks all over the place
> > using a pleasant interface,
>
> Really? I can't think of any 2.0 era social networks using pleasant
> interfaces. All the ones I've seen or used start with mediocre interfaces
> and get worse from there.
>
> > while c.l.p has a rather austere look and feel, with text only,
>
> Thank goodness for that!
>
> > no way to present code snippets in a different
> > font / background than discussions,
>
> If somebody can't distinguish code from comments in a post by the
> context, they aren't cut out to be a programmer and should probably stick
> to posting "OMG LOL" on a social networking site.

They certainly *can* distinguish. But it's so easy to make it more
explicit with syntax highlighting, background color, border etc. that
most sites about programing languages use it, including the Python
home site itself, or the Python cookbook on Active State

>
> > and even an unintuitive way of entering links...
>
> Pasting or typing a URL is unintuitive?
>
> If somebody can't take the time and effort to post a URL in a form that
> is not broken, well, that doesn't say much for their skills as a coder
> does it? If you can't handle the fact that URLs can't be broken over
> multiple lines in email and news posts, how do you expect to handle even
> more vigorous requirements while programming?

That's 2 different things. When you use a programming language you
know you have to adopt the syntax defined by the program. When you
write something in a forum, you expect that the editor will be smart
enough to know that http://pythonforum.org is a URL

>
> > I'm not saying that pythonforum.org is the best solution but it
> > certainly looks more attractive than c.l.p. to the new generation of
> > Python users
>
> I get:
>
> While trying to retrieve the URL:http://pythonforum.org/
>  The following error was encountered:
>  Connection to 173.83.46.254 Failed  
>  The system returned:
>     (111) Connection refused
>
> Oops. Looks like they can't handle the millions of new users joining up.
>
> Despite my sarcasm, I actually do wish them the best. I'm not too worried
> about fragmenting the community -- the community is already fragmented,
> and that's a *good thing*. There are forums for newbies, for development
> *of* Python (rather than development *in* Python), for numeric work in
> Python, for Italian-speakers, for game development, etc. This is the way
> it should be, and I don't fear a competing general Python forum or
> forums. If they're better than comp.lang.python, they will attract more
> users and become the place to be, and if they're not, they won't.
>
> --
> Steven