The real problem with Python 3 - no business case for conversion

[John Nagle]

On 7/3/2010 5:46 AM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 22:40:34 -0700
> John Nagle<nagle at animats.com>  wrote:
>>       Not according to Vex's published package list:
>>
>> 	http://www.vex.net/info/tech/pkglist/
>
> Hold on.  That *is* the generated list and Python 3.1 is on it.  We
> have both 2.6 and 3.1.  The 3.1 version is listed right below the 2.6
> one.  The page is generated from pkg_info(1) and includes everything we
> have installed from FreeBSD ports.

    The base Python 3.1 is installed there, but without any modules.
Below is the list of Python 2.6 modules installed.  Search that
page for "py3", and you get nothing.

    On a hosting service, a raw Python with none of those modules isn't
very useful.

    This is what I mean about Python 3 not being ready for prime time.

					John Nagle

Python packages on Vex:

py26-MySQLdb-1.2.2	Access a MySQL database through Python
py26-PyGreSQL-4.0,1	A Python interface to PostgreSQL, both classic and 
DP-API 2.0
py26-gdbm-2.6.4	Python bindings to the GNU dbm library
py26-psycopg-1.1.21_1	The high performance Python adapter for PostgreSQL
py26-pyPgSQL-2.5.1_3	A Python DB-API 2 compliant library for using 
PostgreSQL databases
py26-rrdtool_lgpl-1.0b1	Python interface to RRDTool, the graphing and 
logging utility
py26-sqlite3-2.6.4_1	Standard Python binding to the SQLite3 library
py26-asn1-0.0.9a_1	ASN.1 toolkit for Python
py26-cElementTree-1.0.5_1	A fast C implementation of the ElementTree API
py26-cheetah-2.2.1	HTML template engine for Python
py26-elementtree-1.2.6_1	Container for hierarchical data structures 
written in Python
py26-setuptools-0.6c11	Download, build, install, upgrade, and uninstall 
Python packages
py26-statgrab-0.5	A set of Python bindings for libstatgrab
py26-twisted-8.2.0	Metaport of Twisted, an event-driven networking engine
py26-twistedCore-8.2.0	An asynchronous networking framework for Python - 
Core module
py26-twistedFlow-8.0.0	Generator based asynchronous result flows
py26-twistedRunner-8.2.0	Runner has process management, including an 
inetd replacement
py26-zopeInterface-3.5.2	Zope.interface package from Zope 3
py26-twistedMail-8.2.0	An SMTP, IMAP and POP protocol implementation 
with clients and servers
py26-twistedPair-8.0.0	Twisted Pair can do low level TCP work

py26-twistedWords-8.2.0	Twisted Words has more chat than you can handle

py26-snmp-3.4.4	SNMP framework for Python
py26-twistedSNMP-0.3.13	Twisted Python framework for doing SNMP stuff
news
py26-twistedNews-8.2.0	An NNTP protocol implementation with client and 
server
py26-fail2ban-0.8.3_2	scans log files and bans IP that makes too many 
password failures.
py26-openssl-0.8_1	Python interface to the OpenSSL library
py26-paramiko-1.7.6	A python library for making SSH2 connections
py26-posix1e-0.4.0	Python module for manipulating POSIX.1e ACLs
py26-pycrack-0.5.1	Python bindings to cracklib
py26-pycrypto-2.1.0_1	The Python Cryptography Toolkit
py26-twistedConch-8.2.0	An SSH and SFTP protocol implementation with 
clients and servers
py26-docutils-0.5	Python Documentation Utilities
py26-dsv-1.4.0	A Python module to parse or write delimeter-separated 
(e.g. CSV) files
py26-twistedLore-8.2.0	Documentation generator with HTML and LaTeX support
py26-xml-0.8.4_2	PyXML: Python XML library enhancements
py26-cherrypy-3.1.2	A pythonic, object-oriented web development framework
py26-django-1.1.1	High-level Python Web framework
py26-flup-1.0.2	Random assortment of WSGI servers, middleware
py26-twistedWeb-8.2.0	An HTTP protocol implementation together with 
clients and servers
py26-twistedWeb2-8.1.0	The next generation Web Server Framework built 
with Twisted