Python - NAWIT / Community

[flebber]

On Dec 28, 11:10 pm, flebber <flebber.c... at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 28, 10:37 pm, Adam Tauno Williams <awill... at whitemice.org>
> wrote:
>
>
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> > On Tue, 2010-12-28 at 03:24 -0800, flebber wrote:
> > > On Dec 28, 10:16 pm, Adam Tauno Williams <awill... at whitemice.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 2010-12-28 at 02:26 -0800, flebber wrote:
> > > > > Is pydev actively being developed and for who? SPE is a great idea but
> > > > > is Stan still developing? Pyscripter is good but not 64 capable. Plus
> > > > > none of these projects seem community centric.
> > > > Why not just check the repo and see the real answer for yourself?  It is
> > > > Open Source after all.
> > > > <https://github.com/aptana/Pydev/commits/master>
> > > Yes you can answer questions, but have you really? Your answer seems
> > > to be things are open source so who cares about community.
> > > > Many projects accept donations via PayPal.  Sourceforge supports this.
> > > Of course any fool can throw his/her money away thats no challenge why
> > > even use Paypal, I could have fun and by 10 bottles of vino and hand
> > > them out to recovering alcoholics.
> > > Don't answer things just for the sake of it, if you have nothing
> > > producive to say about furthering python and its community then say
> > > that.
>
> > I provided two concrete points, thank you:
>
> > (1) Is a project actively developed?  Look at the repo. That is the
> > answer to the question [this isn't necessarily obvious to those new to
> > Open Source].
> > (1.1.) "Is PyDev a potential unifying force amoung IDEs?"  Which is the
> > implied question - that is up to the OP and others who do/do-not
> > contribute to it.
> > (2) How can I donate cash? There is a fairly standard mechanism for
> > that.
>
> > Otherwise I think the OP's thoughts on "community" and how Open Source
> > works are somewhat flawed.  "Community" is a manifestation of people
> > *doing* things; it does *not* arise out of people being concerned about
> > things [since "doing" is quite apparently not a natural result of
> > "concern". Concern is like watching TV.  Doing is getting out of the
> > chair.]
>
> Fair point.
>
> You have mistaken somewhat what I intended, partly my fault due to the
> verbosity. I wanted gaugue feedback on others perception of the
> current status quo. I am happy personally currently, currently being
> the main word.
>
> "Community" is a manifestation of people
>
> > *doing* things; it does *not* arise out of people being concerned about
> > things
>
> But concern is derived from interaction and observation and like fear
> and joy tells us we need to take an action. If someone chooses to sir
> idly by good for them I haven't the time or inclination personally.
>
> Tony Robbins "Acheiving a goal is simple, decide what your goal is,
> set out towards it and consistently review whether you are getting
> closer or further from your goal and take action immediately."
>
> From a language perspective going to python 3 this definitely seems to
> be occurring well and strongly lead.
>
> Sometimes the fault in open source is the lack of a crystalized and
> shared goal and proper infrastructure.....Gentoo as an example. Could
> get to they were going because they didn't share the same vision of
> what it was.
>
> I meant no attack by reviewing, just a somewhat newbies observations
> of python.

Edit Gentoo couldn't get to where they were going because of lack of
vision and a shared goal.