Web development with Python 3.1

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On Oct 28, 5:16 am, "Diez B. Roggisch" <de... at nospam.web.de> wrote:
> Dotan Cohen schrieb:
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>
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> >> While I know that to be true in the general sense, from what I've
> >> looked at Django and other frameworks it seems that the web frameworks
> >> push the coder to use templates, not letting him near the HTML.
>
> >> For instance, I was looking for a class / framework that provided a
> >> proven method of decoding cookies (setting them is no problem),
> >> decoding POST and GET variables, escaping variables for safe entry
> >> into MySQL, and other things. Django and the other frameworks seem to
> >> force the user to use templates. I just want the functions, and to
> >> print the HTML as stdout to the  browser making the request. I had to
> >> settle on PHP to do this, which admittedly is what PHP was invented to
> >> do. However, for obvious reasons, I would have prefered to code in
> >> Python. In fact, I still would.
>
> > I should probably expand on this:
>
> > How can I get an array with all the GET variables in Python?
> > How can I get an array with all the POST variables in Python?
> > How can I get an array with all the COOKIE variables in Python?
> > How can I get the request URI path (everything after
> >http://[www.?]example.com/)?
>
> > That's all I want: no templates and nothing between me and the HTML.
> > The HTTP headers I can output to stdout myself as well.
>
> Again: if you insist on doing everything yourself - then of course any
> library or framework isn't for you.
>
> But then do you deal with headers correctly? Do you respect character
> encodings? Form-encodings? Is your generated HTML valid? Are
> timestamp-formats generated according to RFCs for your cookies? Do you
> parse content negotiation headers?
>
> I think you underestimate the task it is to make a webapplication good.
> And even if not, what you will do is ... code your own webframework.
> Because there is a lot of boilerplate otherwis. If that's a
> learning-experience your after, fine.
>
> Besides, yes, you can get all these things nonetheless. You just don't
> need them most of the time.
>
> And at least pylons/TG2 lets you return whatever you want instead, as a
> string. Not via "print" though - which is simply only for CGI, and no
> other means (e.g. mod_wsgi) of python-web-programming.
>
> Diez

notmm uses Python 2.6 and will probably work just fine with Python
3000.


Cheers,

Etienne

P.S - We all don't think in the same box.