closures and dynamic binding

Aaron "Castironpi" Brady castironpi at gmail.com
Sat Oct 4 02:17:57 EDT 2008


On Oct 3, 3:47 pm, Terry Reedy <tjre... at udel.edu> wrote:
> greg wrote:
> > jhermann wrote:
>
> >> I didn't see this mentioned in the thread yet: the double-lambda is
> >> unnecessary (and a hack).
>
> > Well, the alternative -- abusing default argument values --
> > is seen by many to be a hack as well, possibly a worse one.
>
> I disagree.  It is one way to evaluate an expression when a function is
> compiled.
>
> > It doesn't work in general, e.g. it fails if the function
> > needs to be called with a variable number of arguments.
>
> So?  Many things do not work 'in general'. If one wants multiple
> closures with a variable number of arguments, one should use a def
> statement and some other binding method, such as given below
>
> Here are four ways to get the list of closures desired:
> All print 0 ... 9 with for f in lst:  print(f()) #3.0
>
> lst = []
> for i in range(10):
>      lst.append(eval("lambda: %d" %i))
>
> # use exec instead of eval with def statement instead of lambda expression
>
> lst = []
> def f(i): return lambda: i
> for i in range(10):
>      lst.append(f(i))
>
> #I would most likely use this, with a def instead of lambda inside f for
> any real, non-trivial example.
>
> def populate(n):
>    n -= 1
>    if n >= 0: return populate(n)+[lambda:n]
>    else: return []
> lst = populate(10)
>
> # body recursion
>
> def populate(i,n,lst):
>      if i < n: return populate(i+1,n,lst+[lambda:i])
>      else: return lst
> lst = populate(0,10,[])
>
> # tail recursion
>
> Terry Jan Reedy

Is there a way to get at the 'reduce' / 'setstate' mechanism that
pickle uses without going through the serialization?  I.e. doing a
serial round trip?

In either case, 'copy' module or 'loads( dumps( obj ) )' gets you a
copy of the object, but 'def' is the only way to get its own namespace.



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