Finding the instance reference of an object

[Craig Allen]

> arguably even older than that to Lisp.
>

Firstly, thanks to those that have responded to my part in this
debate, I have found it very informative and interesting as I have the
entire thread.  However, with regard to comments that I led myself
astray, I want to reiterate the one thing I find determinably
important in this... I did not go astray because I did not fret what
the words meant and try to draw anything from that. I learned exactly
what would happen when I passed arguments different ways, and I
learned that well and accurately. Then I mused what to call it all. At
no time was I astray because I think to really be astray would be to
have a misunderstanding on what happens, not on what we call what
happens.

but I will concede that trying to use call-by-name is not a viable
idea as it's yet another term that is already taken. I did not think
too hard what the distinction is, and as far as I know it's as good a
candidate for what we call it as anything else, but I certainly don't
want to fight for the term.  Whatever we call the passing semantics
and methods in Python... it will not change what I understand about
what happens with certain kinds of calls vs others.

cheers.