Python and Flaming Thunder

hdante hdante at gmail.com
Tue May 13 13:06:48 EDT 2008


On May 13, 12:24 pm, Dave Parker <davepar... at flamingthunder.com>
wrote:
> >  The "Flaming Thunder" looks promising, but without being free
> > software, it's unlikely it will create a large developer community,
> > specially considering both free general purpose and scientific
> > programming languages.
>
> Perhaps.  Flaming Thunder is only $19.95 per year for an individual
> (and even less per individual for site licenses), which is less than
> the cost of just one book on Python.
>
> I think that many people will find that Flaming Thunder is easier to
> use and understand than Python -- so for many people the amount of
> time they save will be worth more than the cost of Flaming Thunder
> (unless, of course, their time is worth $0).
>
> Also, several users have rewritten their Python programs in Flaming
> Thunder, and found that Flaming Thunder was 5 to 10 times faster
> (Flaming Thunder compiles to native executables).  So again, since
> many people value their time at more than $0, I think that many people
> will find that Flaming Thunder is worth $19.95 per year.
>
> Plus, me getting paid to work on Flaming Thunder is far more
> motivating than me not getting paid to work on Python.  This weekend,
> Python users will still be debating how to fix awkwardnesses in the
> languages (such as FOR loops where you're just counting the loops and
> not referencing the loop variable) -- but Flaming Thunder users will
> be getting work done using the REPEAT n TIMES constructs that I'll be
> implementing.
>
> Python has been around about 15 years, yet still has those
> awkwardnesses.  Flaming Thunder has been out less than 6 months and
> those awkwardnesses are already getting fixed.  The difference: I
> can't afford to ignore users.
>
> But the future is one of the hardest things to predict, so we'll see.
>
> On May 13, 8:34 am, hdante <hda... at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 13, 10:58 am, Paul McGuire <pt... at austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 13, 8:32 am, Dave Parker <davepar... at flamingthunder.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Don't let yourself be irritated by castironpi
>
> > > > I'm not the sort to get irritated by anyone.  There is value in all
> > > > interaction.
>
> > > Not this interaction, I'm afraid.  What irritates *me* about
> > > castironpi is that he uses a chatterbot to clutter up the threads
> > > here.  If you go back to his postings from a year ago (and selected
> > > ones since), his comments are coherent and sensible.  These rambling
> > > stream-of-consciousness rants about t.v.'s and coffee are (I guess)
> > > his idea of a joke.  But they are certainly not worth your time in
> > > trying to respond to them.
>
> > > -- Paul
>
> >  I don't think castironpi so annoying that I should filter its
> > messages. It would be enough if he were better tuned. He is much
> > smarter than the emacs shrink, for example. :-P
>
> >  The "Flaming Thunder" looks promising, but without being free
> > software, it's unlikely it will create a large developer community,
> > specially considering both free general purpose and scientific
> > programming languages.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
>

 Notice that I said "free software", not "*** FREE *** software !!!!
1!" (that is, free as in freedom, not free as in beer). Read again my
answer, considering this.



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