php vs python

[Jerry Stuckle]

Ivan Illarionov wrote:
> On Sun, 25 May 2008 16:23:12 -0700, NC wrote:
> 
>>> I didn't say that it's not possible to write good code in PHP,
>> Indeed you didn't.  You did, however, say that development in Python/
>> Django is inherently faster than development in PHP (your exact words
>> were, "2 man/year in PHP == 2 man/week in Python/Django", implying a
>> 50-fold difference).  This claim has just been obliterated using the
>> example you (not I) provided; my estimate of two man-years for
>> developing WordPress turns out to be fairly close to what has actually
>> gone into the development of Byteflow.  In other words, so far we have
>> discovered no evidence of Python's (or PHP's, to be fair) superiority in
>> terms of developer's productivity.
> 
> In this case (excellent blogging tool), yes, I agree.
> 
>>> IMHO Python language is better designed
>> That is indeed a matter of opinion.  You like (among other things)
>> immutable strings, the off-side rule, the idea that everything is an
>> object, and the fine distinction between mutable lists and immutable
>> tuples, and I have no problem with you liking these features, as long as
>> you agree that other people may have reasons to like the alternatives
>> better.
> 
> I agree. We like different things and it's good.
> 
>>> Yes, it's possible to write something clean in PHP but it would require
>>> a lot more work.
>> In my opinion, it wouldn't, and in my experience, it doesn't.  All you
>> need is to actually put a designer in charge of design.  Additionally,
>> there are situations (rapid prototyping, for example) when
>> maintainability (the requirement behind the "clean code") is simply not
>> a concern.
> 
> It's hard to me to write good PHP. I feel happy programming in Python and 
> I felt very unhappy when I had to program in PHP.  I'm glad that you have 
> a different experience.
> 
> Ivan
> 

It's very easy for me to write good code in PHP.  I can say the same for 
a number of other good programmers I know.

As I've said before - good programmers can write good code in any language.

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