Return value of an assignment statement?

bruno.desthuilliers at gmail.com bruno.desthuilliers at gmail.com
Thu Feb 21 18:29:02 EST 2008


On 21 fév, 23:19, John Henry <john106he... at hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 21, 2:06 pm, Jeff Schwab <j... at schwabcenter.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > John Henry wrote:
> > > On Feb 21, 1:48 pm, John Henry <john106he... at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> On Feb 21, 1:43 pm, mrstephengross <mrstevegr... at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >>> Hi all. In C, an assignment statement returns the value assigned. For
> > >>> instance:
> > >>>   int x
> > >>>   int y = (x = 3)
> > >>> In the above example, (x=3) returns 3, which is assigned to y.
> > >>> In python, as far as I can tell, assignment statements don't return
> > >>> anything:
> > >>>   y = (x = 3)
> > >>> The above example generates a SyntaxError.
> > >>> Is this correct? I just want to make sure I've understood the
> > >>> semantics.
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> --Steve
> > >> That's true, and I am happy that they decided to make that a syntax
> > >> error.
>
> > > BTW: The less obvious issues when coming from the C world are Python
> > > syntax like these:
>
> > > y = x = 3
>
> > > a = 4
>
> > > y = x = a
>
> > > print x,y
>
> > > a = 5
>
> > > print x,y
>
> > That's the same behavior I would expect in C, on the grounds that C
> > assignments do bit-wise copies.  What I found confusing at first was
> > that the same variable will either directly store or merely refer to an
> > object, depending on the type of the object:
>
> >  >>> a = [ 'hello' ]
> >  >>> y = x = a
> >  >>> a += [ 'world' ]
> >  >>> print x, y
> > ['hello', 'world'] ['hello', 'world']
>
> Yep.  Took me a while to realize there is mutable objects, and non-
> mutable objects.  To be honest, I am still not too comfortable about
> it.  For instance, I still get nervous for code like:
>
> def invoke_some_fct(parent):
>    y = parent.x
>    y += [ 'world' ]
>    print y, parent.x
>
> class abc:
>    def __init__(self):
>       self.x=[ 'hello' ]
>       invoke_some_fct(self)
>       print self.x
>

Explicitely using list.extend would make things clearer:

def invoke_some_fct(parent):
      parent.x.extend(['world'])

Now there's no reason to feel nervous about this. All you have to
remember is that Python never copy anything unless explicitely asked
for.



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