Finally had to plonk google gorups.

[Mike Driscoll]

On Apr 16, 11:06 am, Steve Holden <st... at holdenweb.com> wrote:
> Mike Driscoll wrote:
> > On Apr 16, 10:09 am, Steve Holden <st... at holdenweb.com> wrote:
> >> Mike Driscoll wrote:
> >>> On Apr 16, 9:19 am, Grant Edwards <gra... at visi.com> wrote:
> >>>> This morning almost half of c.l.p was spam.  In order to try to
> >>>> not tar both the benign google group users and the malignant
> >>>> ones with the same brush, I've been trying to kill usenet spam
> >>>> with subject patterns.  But that's not a battle you can win, so
> >>>> I broke down and joined all the other people that just killfile
> >>>> everything posted via google.groups.
> >>>> AFAICT, if you're a google groups user your posts are not being
> >>>> seen by many/most experienced (read "non-google-group") users.
> >>>> This is mainly the fault of google who has refused to do
> >>>> anything to stem the flood of span that's being sent via Google
> >>>> Groups.
> >>>> --
> >>>> Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow! I would like to
> >>>>                                   at               urinate in an OVULAR,
> >>>>                                visi.com            porcelain pool --
> >>> Yeah, I noticed that Google Groups has really sucked this week. I'm
> >>> using the Google Groups Killfile for Greasemonkey now and it helps a
> >>> lot. I like Google, but my loyalty only goes to far. This is a
> >>> complete lack of customer service.
> >> Unfortunately this means Google groups users are getting exactly the
> >> service they are paying for.
>
> >> regards
> >>   Steve
> >> --
> >> Steve Holden        +1 571 484 6266   +1 800 494 3119
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>
> > Steve,
>
> > My workplace doesn't offer NNTP, so there is no good way to browse
> > c.l.py here. And I haven't been able to get NNTP to work from my home
> > either.
>
> > By applying this logic to Python and Linux (or any Open Source
> > product), they shouldn't be used either (since I'm not paying for
> > them).
>
> I'm not saying people shouldn't use Google Groups. I'm saying that
> Google can "justify" providing customer "support" that lives somewhere
> between zero and extremely crappy by not charging for the service.
>
> Without tunneling out to an NNTP proxy I don't see what other choice you
> have.
>
> regards
>   Steve
> --
> Steve Holden        +1 571 484 6266   +1 800 494 3119
> Holden Web LLC              http://www.holdenweb.com/

OK. The way it was written + the mood I was in made me misinterpret
your meaning. I apologize.

Mike