annoying dictionary problem, non-existing keys

[Steve Holden]

Thanks for your reply. Another point to note: if you get a personal 
reply (often you will just see replies on the list, but sometimes people 
will also mail you directly) it is usual to make sure the list gets 
copied in any reply.

I hope you don't mind that I am sending a copy of this message to the 
list, so everyone understands that you are just learning the rules.

regards
  Steve

bvidinli wrote:
> Thank you for your answer,
> Please be tolerant a bit...
> 
> 
> 2008/4/24, Steve Holden <steve at holdenweb.com>:
>> bvidinli wrote:
>>
>>> I posted to so many lists because,
>>>
>>> this issue is related to all lists,
>>>
>>  No, it isn't, as you would have discovered had you bothered to read the
>> purpose of each list. For example, python-help and python-dev are mutually
>> exclusive.
>>
> 
> May be, anyway,
> 
>>> this is an idea for python,
>>>
>>  It isn't an idea for Python at all. It's you, telling the world that you
>> haven't really used Python much and haven't read the manuals but would
>> nevertheless like us to consider your ideas for improving the language.
>>
> 
> I am using python for months,
> currently i am using it by means of Object oriented, multi thread
> applications....
> but i dont see myself a python expert yet..
> 
>>> this is related to development of python...
>>>
>>>
>>  No it isn't. Python already has the feature you requested.
> 
> No, python does not have, php way is simpler, shorter.
> list.get('key') is a solution, but not the thing i want... i think
> list['key'] is simpler,
> this is my idea...
> python is generally better than php, but some aspects of php is
> better... such as web programming..
> 
>>
>>> why are you so much defensive ?
>>>
>>>
>>  Terry wasn't being defensive, he was protecting you form the abue you would
>> receive of you kept posting to the wrong list!
> 
> Please be tolerant a bit..
> The person who post may be a person who does not know list rules...
> Why hurt such people ? lets concentrate our energy on solutions...
> 
>>
>>> i think ideas all important for development of python, software....
>>> i am sory anyway.... hope will be helpful.
>>>
>>>
>>  We hope you will be helpful too. For now it would probably be best to start
>> by posting your questions on the regular comp.lang.python group, which is
>> generally suitable for beginners who know something about programming. If
>> you are new to programming as well then the python-tutor list would be more
>> useful.
>>
> 
> I am not a beginner for programming, not for python,
> i am not python expert too...
> i do programming since 1988,
> i do web/php/system programming since 2000, python for 5 months..
> 
>>  Ask with a little humility (the people who answer questions here are doing
>> it out of the goodness of their hearts, remember) and soon you will be able
>> to pass their assistance on, returning the favor they did for you.
>>
>>  Welcome to the Python community.
> 
> Anyway, thank you for your answers, your guides, i am happy to hear from you,
> to hear from python community.
> At least, it is a live community... :)
> 
> see you
> Bahattin.
> 
> 
> 
>>  regards
>>   Steve
>>
>>
>>> 2008/4/24, Terry Reedy <tjreedy at udel.edu>:
>>>
>>>> Python-dev is for discussion of development of future Python.  Use
>>>>  python-list / comp.lang.python / gmane.comp.python.general for usage
>>>>  questions.
>>>>
>>  --
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>>
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> 
> 


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