My newbie annoyances so far

[Isaac Gouy]

On May 6, 9:29 pm, John Nagle <n... at animats.com> wrote:
> Isaac Gouy wrote:
> > On May 6, 6:09 pm, John Nagle <n... at animats.com> wrote:
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> >>Alex Martelli wrote:
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> >>>John Nagle <n... at animats.com> wrote:
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> >>>>igo... at yahoo.com wrote:
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> >>>>>On Apr 27, 9:07 am, John Nagle <n... at animats.com> wrote:
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> >>>>>>The CPython implementation is unreasonably slow compared
> >>>>>>to good implementations of other dynamic languages such
> >>>>>>as LISP and JavaScript.
> >>    My point is that there are optimizing hard-code compiler implementations
> >>of many dynamic languages, including LISP, Self, and Smalltalk, but not Python.
>
> > I guess Lisp is a safe-ish example but I don't think Self really made
> > it out of the lab, and it really depends which Smalltalk
> > implementation you have in mind and what you think about Pysco.
>
>     See
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>        http://research.sun.com/self/papers/third-generation.html
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> on a high performance Self implementation.  That laid the groundwork
> for Java's JIT system.

I don't think Java HotSpot equates to Self getting out of the lab.
(And wasn't that more directly related to Strongtalk?)


>     Here are some early Tamarin benchmarks.
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> http://www.playercore.com/pub/Tamarin/Avmplus_vs._javascript.htm
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>     Tamarin doesn't do type inference, though, so they get the best
> performance only with type declarations.
>
>                                 John Nagle

Thank you Neil Hodgson :-)

I wonder where the runtime was hosted? I wonder what current
measurements look like?