merits of Lisp vs Python

[Brian Adkins]

John Nagle wrote:
> Brian Adkins wrote:
>> alex23 wrote:
>>
>>> John Nagle wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hosting providers and distro
>>>> makers aren't concerned over whether Python works.  They
>>>> care if C, C++, Java, PHP, and Perl work, but not Python or LISP.
>>>> Ask them.
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you have any real experience with recent linux distros? Or with any
>>> _real_ hosting providers?
> 
>    Do you?  You're writing from a gmail account, not your own site.
> 
>    I have four hosting accounts with EZpublishing and a dedicated server
> at Aplus.net.  I spent weeks trying to find a hosting provider that
> would provide a Python environment that "just works", like everyone
> does for Perl.  What you typically get is a basic Python 2.4,
> and a refusal to install more packages, because it's so time-consuming.
> Or a quote of $50 to $150 per hour to install Python packages.
> 
>    There are a very few hosting providers that actually want to provide
> Python hosting, such as Hard Hat Hosting.  But most don't.
>>>
>>> Because what you've said is clearly not true. Just because the
>>> situation isn't as easy _for you_ as you would like, doesn't mean that
>>> Python is being ignored to the extent you're trying to claim.
> 
>    I don't see any evidence to back up this unsubstantiated claim.
> 
>                 John Nagle

Ok, since you provided some details you appear less troll-like, so I'll 
ignore my own advice.

With prices of dedicated servers and virtual private servers so cheap, 
why would anyone get a hosting account without root access? Once you 
have root, just install whatever you want. It shouldn't take more than a 
few minutes to install Python or whatever language you desire.

If "apt-get install" doesn't give you a recent enough version, just 
download the source and compile it.

Brian

P.S. very cool rag doll physics by the way...