New python.org website

[Kay Schluehr]

Michael Tobis wrote:
> > No one
> > of the complainers and negativists do claim that they could do it much
> > better.
>
> Indeed, I do not have to be able to write a particular program to
> notice it has bugs.
>
> On the other hand, (since I think the design, while not brilliant, is
> good) fixing the logo is something that can be achieved without too
> much fuss.
>
> > But I think at times it might be usefull to consult
> > professional aid.
>
> In the case of the logo design, I am not sure I agree.
>
> I think the twisted logo
>
> http://saph.twistedmatrix.com/blog/archives/twisted.png
>
> and the PyCon logo
>
> http://mirrors.ccs.neu.edu/Python/pub/old-www/pics/pycon-logo.gif
>
> were probably not designed by professional designers but rather by
> people who appreciate Python, and yet do have more appeal to the
> community and the outside world alike. If we are going to use a snake
> motif, we should use snakes that look like snakes.

Maybe its time for me to abandone this discussion. If you and others
feel quite well represented by a pasty and wordy snake than go for it.
I do neither feel embraced nor bitten by it. And I don't just mean the
logo. We can do an awfull lot of comparisons with pages that failed but
this doesn't bring forth anything.

This evening we talked at the Hofbraeuhaus at Munich about Michelangelo
whose sixtine chapel images where once overpainted because his figures
appeared naked "as god created them". But maybe he was wrong and his
customer, the pope, was right and they were actually born with a leaf
covered their pubic hairs? The pope had to take responsibility and had
to appease possible and real critics. We can assume he was far from
being an idiot but a serious man - a politician. As a serious person
myself I'm always a little splitted between Michelangelo and the pope.
My own idealism expects Michelangelo doing such outstanding things that
it is beyond anything. Nothing could be better than having the uptights
as the most severe enemies. What a fun! But as it seems my political
party is guided by ordinary indifferent humans as well and Michelangelo
may be as much attracted by it as I am by e.g. the german social
democratic party? So I should track back and rethink "the professional
aid" which might be not what I'm really looking for. Guido feels a deep
joy about the resonance between Python and an programmer and artist -
Juergen Scheible - who likes the language, feels inspired by it and
creates a little artwork for Nokia 60s. So there is some inversion in
the right direction. Suddenly Python appears a bit distorted within
another context and it becomes sexy again. Should we talk about Apple
next ... ?