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[Ravi Teja]

BJörn Lindqvist wrote:
> > > > community has no interest in it. When I absolutely need macros, I will
> > > > go elsewhere.
> > I *like* 1..5 (ada, ruby) instead of range(5). If I had macros, I would
> > have done it myself for *my* code.

> I think this example more is a symptom of a childish need to get
> things your way than of a deficiency in Python.

I thought I had enough asterisks in there to indicate that it is a
preference that I will not be defending on rational grounds. I had a
better argument before it in the same post. But you had to choose only
the trivial one to dismiss me as childish. Didn't you? :-)

> BTW, range(5) = 0..4 in Ada and Ruby.

My bad. I usually write range(1, 5 + 1) to get 1..5.
I could write range(1, 6). But I would like to see the upper bound
explicitly. Of course, I could write a function to wrap that up.

> You said "when I absolutely need macros" but none of your examples
> demonstrate any "absolute need." I can't see your point.

Did you miss the word - *WHEN*?
I don't need them absolutely now. And I know, that I won't get them
here. And just so you don't misinterpret, I don't call that a
"deficiency". Just a mismatch between the personal and the community
mindset.
BTW, the recent language changes - decorators, conditional expressions
and with statements are not absolute either. That did not stop them
from being welcome additions.