merits of Lisp vs Python

[Timofei Shatrov]

On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 04:24:43 +1100, Steven D'Aprano
<steve at REMOVE.THIS.cybersource.com.au> tried to confuse everyone with this
message:

>On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 14:00:10 +0000, Timofei Shatrov wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 20:36:02 +1100, Steven D'Aprano
>> <steve at REMOVE.THIS.cybersource.com.au> tried to confuse everyone with this
>> message:
>> 
>>>On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 23:38:02 -0800, Wolfram Fenske wrote:
>>>
>>>> if Common Lisp didn't have CLOS, its object system, I could write my own
>>>> as a library and it would be just as powerful and just as easy to use as
>>>> the system Common Lisp already provides.  Stuff like this is impossible
>>>> in other languages.
>>>
>>>Dude. Turing Complete. Don't you Lisp developers know anything about
>>>computer science?
>> 
>> Here, you've basically shot yourself in the ass. Appealing to Turing
>> completeness when talking about programming language features is about the
>> dumbest thing you can make. In Turing sense, a program is simply a function that
>> takes an argument and returns a value. It doesn't say anything about how this
>> function was implemented. It could be Turing machine, lambda calculus, Markov
>> chains or whatever else. All these methods produce the same set of programs, but
>> that doesn't mean you could implement lambda in Turing machine for example.
>
>What exactly are you trying to say here? Is this a comment about the
>relative practicality of writing code in a Turing machine versus
>high-level languages, or are you implying that lambda calculus is "bigger"
>than any Turing-complete language?
>

I'm trying to say that the ability to read is a very useful skill in a Usenet
discussion. Your posts, like the two quoted above, seem to indicate the lack of
it.

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