Pros/Cons of Turbogears/Rails?

[Adam Jones]

Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
> Paul Boddie wrote:
> > Ray wrote:
> (snip)
> >> We're a Java shop so
> >> our developers are trained in Java, Struts, Tomcat, etc. Any switch to
> >> a dynamic language will be a huge change. However it baffles me that
> >> they are open to at least a PoC in Rails. but when I suggested Python,
> >> they went: "nah we're not interested in Python. Rails it is."
> >>
> >> *shrugs* whatever it is, those guys are doing something right.
> >
> > Making the Java people feel like they're doing something wrong, I
> > guess. And perhaps the Rails people realised that by giving those
> > people who lack direction, motivation, conviction or a sense of purpose
> > or control something to gravitate towards, some of them might feel
> > empowered enough to evangelise their discovery to the rest of the
> > group.
> >
>
> FWIW, and while it's certainly not enough by itself to explain the
> phenomenon, I think that Ruby's object model being much more
> conventional than Python's may have some influence too on RoR's adoption
> by the Java world.

I don't know enough about Ruby to comment, but how is its object model
"more conventional" than Python's? The only thing I can see is access
control for methods, which seems like a silly thing to base a language
decision on.

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> --
> bruno desthuilliers
> python -c "print '@'.join(['.'.join([w[::-1] for w in p.split('.')]) for
> p in 'onurb at xiludom.gro'.split('@')])"