print() in Python 3000 return value?

[Gary Herron]

Felipe Almeida Lessa wrote:

>Em Dom, 2006-04-02 às 10:41 -0700, James Thiele escreveu:
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>>Martin chimedin:
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>>>James Thiele wrote:
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>>>>I noticed in PEP 3000 that print will become a function. The PEP
>>>>references a thread where Guido explains this decision. The thread does
>>>>not specify what the function will return. Has this been decided?
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>>>My intuition is that it should be a procedure (i.e. returning None).
>>>What do you want it to return?
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>>>Regards,
>>>Martin
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>>The string that was printed. It could be useful inside expessions:
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>>message = "I don't need to see all of this:%s" % print(s)
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>Or maybe:
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>for i in sequence:
>	mylist.append(print(i))
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No no, please NO!   You *know* that someday you'll want the return value 
without actually printing the text. 

So let's don't overload a single function with two operations.  Let 
"print" print, and propose a separate function (named "format" --yuck-- 
or some such) that returns the same text as a string.

Gary Herron