python speed

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Isaac Gouy wrote:
> Peter Hansen wrote:
> > Isaac Gouy wrote:
> > > Peter Hansen wrote:
> > >>Judging by the other posts in this thread, the gauntlet is down: Python
> > >>is faster than Java.  Let those who believe otherwise prove their point
> > >>with facts, and without artificially handcuffing their opponents with
> > >>non-real-world "purity" requirements.
> >
> > > That form of argument is listed as one of the principal forms of
> > > illogical thinking in "Being Logical" D.Q.McInerny - "An Inability to
> > > Disprove Does Not Prove"
> >
> > Good thing this is the form of argument *against* which I was arguing,
> > rather than that which I choose to use myself.  (Read very carefully, if
> > you really think I was saying otherwise, and point out exactly where I
> > made any such claims for my own part.  In fact, I was referencing the
> > arguments of others -- who *were* supporting their arguments with facts,
> > as near as I can tell -- and I was calling on the opposition to do the
> > same, and without changing the rules mid-discussion.)
> >
> > > "The fact that there is no concrete proof against a position does not
> > > constitute an argument in favour of the position. I cannot claim to be
> > > right simply because you can't prove me to be wrong."
> >
> > Isn't that what I was saying?  That those who claim Python isn't faster
> > were not supporting their arguments with actual facts?
> >
> > -Peter
>
> *Python is faster than Java.  Let those who believe otherwise prove
> their point with facts*
>
> We must be looking at different threads :-)
>
> afaict the only posting that provided something like "facts" was
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/309e439697279060
>
> Which stated "Python is doing the heavy lifting with GMPY which is a
> compiled C program with a Python wrapper" - but didn't seem to compare
> that to GMPY with a Java wrapper?

Is there such an animal? I only know about Java's BigInteger.
And if there is, it just proves my point that benchmarks are
worthless.