Python for a 10-14 years old?

[Joal Heagney]

Joal Heagney wrote:
> Joal Heagney wrote:
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>> Duncan Booth wrote:
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>>> Joal Heagney wrote:
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>>>> Nice. I still have to download a version of pygame to try this out, 
>>>> but the fact that you can't hide the turtle in python.turtle was 
>>>> bugging me out with my version. (A fair bit of copy/paste in gimp, I 
>>>> can tell you!)
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>>> What was wrong with hiding the turtle? 'turtle.tracer(False)' usually 
>>> does it nicely and speeds things up a lot.
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>> Ahhah! Thanks for that.
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>> I also noticed that I got severe speed hits if the Xwindows mouse was 
>> over the turtle tk window while the program was running.
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>> BTW. How do I move the turtle to a new location without drawing anything?
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>> Joal
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> Whoop. That WAS a speedup!!! :)
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> Joal

Now, is there a way to embed the turtle window into a scrollable canvas, 
preferably with arbitrary runtime size?

Joal