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From: Harry George <harry.g.george at boeing.com>
Subject: Re: Boss wants me to program
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Peter Hansen <peter at engcorp.com> writes:

> Harry George wrote:
> > "Adriaan Renting" <renting at astron.nl> writes:
> >>Both VB and Python are easier to learn as the more powerful
> >>languages, the price is that they lack features that make it easier to
> >>manage large and complex projects.
> > What is a large project, and what is Python missing that C++ and Java
> > have for such tasks?
> 
> But C++ and Java have features that *management* likes, thus making it
> "easier to manage large projects".  (That says nothing about whether
> or not it makes it easier to produce quality code, successful
> projects, happy customers, large profits, or any such silly
> things... just that it's "easier to manage". ;-)
> 
> Less facetiously: I have managed a large Python project or three, and
> several large C++ projects (and, thankfully, no large Java projects)
> and found Python quite up to the task.  In fact, if anything the C++
> projects ended up more in danger of succumbing to the sheer weight of
> the code than did the Python projects.  But I attribute this more to
> the fact that we had evolved to using agile approaches with the Python
> projects than to any of those special features either present or
> lacking in C++.
> 
> Ultimately, manageability of a project is far and away more about the
> people involved and the techniques used than it is about any single
> technology involved.
> 
> -Peter

That's our experience too (and the reason I asked).  I wonder if the
OP will respond.


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