IDLE history, Python IDE, and Interactive Python with Vim

[Markus Wankus]

I highly recommend trying pyDev.  0.9 just came out, and I find 0.85 
very usable and quite cool.  There is nice debug support, and 
context-sensitive code completion as well as real-time validation of 
your code.  This is an exciting project with a bright future in my opinion.

Markus.


Ashot wrote:

> This is sort of both Python and Vim related (which is why I've posted 
> to  both newsgroups).
> 
> Python related:
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> I have been frustrated for quite some time with a lack of a history  
> command in IDLE (in fact with IDLE in general).  Often I'll develop new  
> code at the command line, testing each line as I go.  Currently I have 
> to  copy and paste, removing outputs and the ">>>" at each line.
> Is it perhaps possible to make some kind of hack to do this (dump a  
> command history)?
> 
> Idle in general isn't that great IMO, so I was wondering also if there 
> are  better alternatives out there?  What do people use mostly?  I've 
> tried  something called pyCrust, but this too didn't have history and 
> some other  things I was looking for.  On a more general note, although 
> the agility  and simplicity of Python make programming tools like an IDE 
> less  necessary, it still seems that Python is lacking in this 
> departement.  The  PyDev plug-in for Eclipse seems like good step in 
> this direction, although  I haven't tried it yet.  Does anyone have any 
> experience with this, or  perhaps can point me to other tools.
> 
> Vim related:
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> Ideally, it would be nice to have a command mapped to a keystroke that 
> can  append the last executed command to a file.  Even better would be a 
> system  that would integrate the file editing and interactive command 
> line tool  more seamlessly.  Something along the lines of a debugger + 
> file editor  + command line utility, where file editor = vim.  I know 
> that vim has a  utility for running python commands from its command 
> prompt, but I have  had a hard time getting this to work in windows and 
> haven't explored it.   Has anyone seen/tried a system along these lines, 
> perhaps incorporating  the python debugger (pdb)?  I can see something 
> that will run the file you  are editing in vim up to the cursor or a 
> mark with a set_trace at the line  you are editing.
> 
> 
> Any info is appreciated, thanks.
> 
> -- 
> Ashot Petrosian
> University of Texas at Austin, Computer Sciences