Confused with methods

[Alex Martelli]

Antoon Pardon <apardon at forel.vub.ac.be> wrote:

> Yes it is inconsistent with the rest of python. That you found
> a subset in which it is consistent doesn't change that.
> 
> And what if you do:
> 
>   c = C()
>   c.f = g
> 
> 
> The fact that a function in a class performs a lot of magic if
> it is called through an instance, that isn't performed otherwise,
> makes python inconsistent here. You may like the arrangement
> (and it isn't such a big deal IMO) but that doesn't make it consistent.

Any descriptor (be it a function or otherwise) has its __get__ method
called, when _accessed_ by attribute syntax, if and only if that
descriptor is in a class.  _ALL_ of Python is perfectly consistent on
this point, and if I didn't already know the kind of crazy and obviously
false assertions that you post *QUITE* consistently, I would be
astonished to see you claim otherwise.  Knowing your posts, this latest
idiocy is perfectly "par for the course".

"A lot of magic" is simply a stupid and imprecise way to describe "the
__get__ method gets called".  Saying that any of this happens when the
function is CALLED is a definitely more serious mistake, since it's
absolutely obvious that the __get__ method is called when the function
(or any other attribute) is *ACCESSED* -- the call operation (on
whatever object __get__ returns) happens AFTERWARDS.

Why you, and a few other habitual trolls, keep lowering the signal to
noise ratio of this newsgroup with your blatherings, I don't know; I'm
sure this behavior must be giving you guys some kind of satisfaction.
Whether the damage you do to the clarity of the issues, and to the
understanding of newbies who are unfortunate enough to read and trust
the many imprecise and/or utterly false assertions you keep making, with
totally unjustified airs of competence, is part of your jollies, or just
a side effect you don't care a whit about, I don't know either.  Guess
I'll just killfile you for another month now -- wish MacSOUP had a
simple way to to permanent killfiling, since it's pretty obvious by now
that it's quite unlikely you'll even post anything worthwhile at all.


Alex