python speed

[Isaac Gouy]

mensanator at aol.com wrote:
> Isaac Gouy wrote:
> > Peter Hansen wrote:
> > > Isaac Gouy wrote:
> > > > Peter Hansen wrote:
> > > >>Judging by the other posts in this thread, the gauntlet is down: Python
> > > >>is faster than Java.  Let those who believe otherwise prove their point
> > > >>with facts, and without artificially handcuffing their opponents with
> > > >>non-real-world "purity" requirements.
> > >
> > > > That form of argument is listed as one of the principal forms of
> > > > illogical thinking in "Being Logical" D.Q.McInerny - "An Inability to
> > > > Disprove Does Not Prove"
> > >
> > > Good thing this is the form of argument *against* which I was arguing,
> > > rather than that which I choose to use myself.  (Read very carefully, if
> > > you really think I was saying otherwise, and point out exactly where I
> > > made any such claims for my own part.  In fact, I was referencing the
> > > arguments of others -- who *were* supporting their arguments with facts,
> > > as near as I can tell -- and I was calling on the opposition to do the
> > > same, and without changing the rules mid-discussion.)
> > >
> > > > "The fact that there is no concrete proof against a position does not
> > > > constitute an argument in favour of the position. I cannot claim to be
> > > > right simply because you can't prove me to be wrong."
> > >
> > > Isn't that what I was saying?  That those who claim Python isn't faster
> > > were not supporting their arguments with actual facts?
> > >
> > > -Peter
> >
> > *Python is faster than Java.  Let those who believe otherwise prove
> > their point with facts*
> >
> > We must be looking at different threads :-)
> >
> > afaict the only posting that provided something like "facts" was
> > http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/309e439697279060
> >
> > Which stated "Python is doing the heavy lifting with GMPY which is a
> > compiled C program with a Python wrapper" - but didn't seem to compare
> > that to GMPY with a Java wrapper?
>
> Is there such an animal? I only know about Java's BigInteger.

Google.

http://dev.i2p.net/javadoc/net/i2p/util/NativeBigInteger.html

> And if there is, it just proves my point that benchmarks are
> worthless.

How so?