Passing arguments to function - (The fundamentals are confusingme)
Terry Reedy
tjreedy at udel.edu
Wed Aug 10 00:37:48 EDT 2005
"Christopher Subich" <spam.csubich+block at block.subich.spam.com> wrote in
message news:0S5Ke.5236$3p.2192 at bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
>> In a more simplistic view, I'd reverse the phrasing... The name
>> "x" is assigned to the object "y" (implying it is no longer attached to
>> whatever used to have the name)
I agree that this is the more useful way to see it. I intentionally said
'useful' rather than 'correct' since I consider the former to be the way to
judge viewpoints. And I base the usefullness view on an informal (and yes,
unscientific) mental tabulation of newbie confusions posted to c.l.p over
several years. But better data could revise my judgment..
> No, because that'd imply that the object 'y' somehow keeps track of the
> names assigned to it,
I disagree with your implication and see it the other way. To me, 'the
object is bound to a name' implies that the object can only be bound to
one name while the name could have many objects bound to it, which is the
opposite of the case.
Analogy: in an elementary school, students are assigned to (bound to) a
room. The name=>room binding is recorded in a list (the 'namespace',
alphabetical for lookup of names) in the principal's office. The rooms do
not have to have a list of the students assigned to them, even though one
could be derived from the master list, as one could
Put another way: 'the name is bound' implies pretty clearly that the name
is acted up, and it is that acting upon that makes the object a (new)
property of the name. Nothing need be done to the object itself. This is
even clearer if 'bound' is expanded to 'associated with object-fetch
information'. So 'x = y' means "associated name 'x' with the object-fetch
information that name 'y' is currently associated with."
>The object is the property of the name, not vice versa.
I agree, and see the binding of the name (to the object, as explained
above) as that which sets the property.
Terry J. Reedy
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