Newbie's rant's and question :) (long post)

[Tim Hoffman]

Hi Hendy

Some things you should no. Python runs on many different OS's and as 
such a single cross platform GUI is often quite difficult to 
build/maintain and distribute. However Python does come with one in most 
pre-build distributions (Tkinter) based on TK.

I am not sure what you mean by python is teethless.  I use python every
day for serious programming and I almost never use/build stuff that
uses a GUI. (but then I suppose data manipulation and server oriented
programming just isn't that serious ;-)

By the way I don't think many languages have native support for JPEG's

Also does the fact that C# and Java, and C++  depend on so many external 
libraries and classes (ie not part of the core) mean they are scripting 
languages. I mean  does C++ come with a GUI built in ;-)

If you want a good library for manipulating images try PIL.
If you want to start with a GUI, try TKinter that comes with Python
, it is probably much easier to get started with than wxWindows.

Oh and the zipfile class has been in Python since 1.6 I think.

I feel you really should spend a little more time reading the (IMHO)
quite good documentation that comes with Python, for the basics.

Regards

Tim

Hendy Teguh wrote:

> i tried to search for other wxPython tutorial, but it seems a little
> scarce. i googled around and found out that many expert always
> recommended to look for reference from the demo file and the help
> file. So, i try to learn by myself. It took me nearly 30 minutes
> 'wreck havocing' the demo files and wxWindow reference just to find
> the command to refresh the menu (which i've disabled). This is very -
> very discouraging for me. Am i doing something wrong here or is this
> the correct 'process' of learning GUI programming? I feel like
> there're a lot of missing step from the 'basic' python tutorial to
> 'expert' python tutorial.
> 
> 2. so far i learned python, i got the impression that python is more
> like a scripting language than programming since python rely heavily
> on external libraries (i may be biased on this because i also
> currently learning Blender 3D which use python as the scripting
> language). In other word, somehow python is 'teethless' in doing
> something 'powerful' by itself IMHO.
> 
> I'm planning to write a simple graphic viewer in paralel learning GUI.
> Since python don't support natively jpeg or png (am i right?), do i
> need to find library to read those file or should i find the format of
> each extension and decode with python by myself? if i can use library,
> could anyone guide me where to find supporting library for python? (I
> once every tried to google for zip handling library, found only zlib,
> seems only handling ZIP compression not the zip file itself).
> 
> 3. just a curious question, why doesn't python include a basic library
> (GUI for example)? the library doesn't necessarily need to be
> optimised, just to help introducing the way python work. An example
> Pascal language, it included some library to handle graphic mode. Not
> very optimised, but it really-really help me a lot in understanding
> graphic mode. When i'm good enough and feel that it's very slow, i
> could either search for better library or just programmed it myself
> (in my case, i made a library from assembly). The point is that it
> could really - really help the beginner to learn.
> 
> 
> ok, end of my rants here :)
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> 
> Hendy